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susanna

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58. I could stand a re-read myself.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #53)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:49 AM

Nov 2017

I've been unpacking books from a recent move, and of course they will be in the last box I unpack...I have a lot of books. Sigh. As for husband? His brothers are both Gen X so I think it might be sibling influence for him being less Boomer-ish.

Agree so much re: Bannon and The Fourth Turning. I always understood that fourth turnings were something that happened, for lack of a better word, naturally. If my memory about the lead-up to a fourth turning is correct, they come about as a confluence of events reaching critical mass, and only after a seismic societal event of some sort.

I do think Bannon (cynically) attempted to bring on a fourth turning prior to/during the election on through manipulation, deceit and propaganda. If I am right, he is missing one important qualifier: the great preceding shock that gives the fourth turning its tsunami quality.

As a matter of interest, are we due for a legitimate fourth turning? If so, I think it could be the post-election period that delivers the seeds, with the election being the shock that resonates and amplifies (which it seems to be doing).

Thanks for talking about this with me! I have not met many people who read both books either. Kindred spirits...

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There's a wonderful book out there, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #36

I enjoyed the book as well for many of the reasons you mention. susanna Nov 2017 #52

I've been pushing this book for some time, and I think PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #53

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