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Bucky

(55,334 posts)
77. I believe her but I still stand with Al Franken.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:10 AM
Nov 2017

He says we should listen to the women who make accusations and we should believe them. I take him at his word.

I do believe the allegations, they seem internally consistent. I also believe her when she says she accepts his apology.

Of course it's pretty obvious that word of what she experienced and how she felt about it fell into the ears of some very shady people, toadies of Bannon & Roger Stone and other creeps in that universe. They're using it against Franken but he's not falling into their trap.

I'm mostly appalled by the slut-shaming and conspiracy jabbering coming from DUers. That's just embarrassing. We look like a big online Alabama when we do that.

I stand with Al Franken. Especially when he says women who come forward need to be listened to and believed. I don't make exceptions to my convictions just because I politically support a politician who has been accused.

But mostly I stand with him for the professional and humble way he's handled these allegations. I believe him when he says he's embarrassed and determined to change the way he comports himself in public. That's commendable, and he was right to refer the whole matter to the Ethics Committee.

We should let the process work, let him take the slap-on-the-wrist that he deserves, and most importantly, start holding all Senators to the same high standards that he is being subjected to.

I guarantee you Democrats will come out better in the long run for that

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Do you believe Leann Tweeden? [View all] Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 OP
She sure went quite. Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #1
I guess she got what she wanted. Yeah? Control-Z Nov 2017 #3
Trip wire is the Date Stamps on the Photos. Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #8
For me it was above all her hard-right politics and the timing Hortensis Nov 2017 #76
Quite? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #56
Yup. Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #116
"quiET"? ashling Nov 2017 #59
No CatMor Nov 2017 #2
Nope rasberry Nov 2017 #4
no demtenjeep Nov 2017 #5
No sagesnow Nov 2017 #6
Yeah, way, way overdone. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #30
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 #7
No dflprincess Nov 2017 #9
Nope. Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #10
No. Someone is performing a ratfcking. Hekate Nov 2017 #11
" H2O Man Nov 2017 #32
No. n/t ornotna Nov 2017 #12
I am going to kick that red-tongued devil's ass Skittles Nov 2017 #17
Thank you ornotna Nov 2017 #113
NFW!!!! COLGATE4 Nov 2017 #13
+100 fierywoman Nov 2017 #14
Well there was no grope in the pic, and she lied about the script so nope. bettyellen Nov 2017 #15
No Jake2413 Nov 2017 #16
NO! dewsgirl Nov 2017 #18
NO secondwind Nov 2017 #19
Absolutely do not believe her! democratisphere Nov 2017 #20
No. roamer65 Nov 2017 #21
No KewlKat Nov 2017 #22
It has.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #63
I believe parts of her stories, but not all of them. spooky3 Nov 2017 #23
He at least pretended to grope her. WTF, they were comedians.. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #36
I believe her. But I think she fell in with those trying to destroy Franken Bucky Nov 2017 #75
Well said Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #83
Which parts? Duppers Nov 2017 #44
Here's the problem, IMO: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #24
That is an exceptionally good point. roamer65 Nov 2017 #26
Yeah, it doesn't add up. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #38
She showed that one picture.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #64
+1 Not credible at all. treestar Nov 2017 #92
Yeah, then there's that. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #97
No doc03 Nov 2017 #25
Hell NO! Sinistrous Nov 2017 #27
No. I also believe that Tweeden was part of a deliberate GOP media conspiracy. nt. PufPuf23 Nov 2017 #28
Truly. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #39
No lunamagica Nov 2017 #29
No quickesst Nov 2017 #31
i was willing to hear what she had to say. but actual evidence goes against her claims JI7 Nov 2017 #33
Yeah, she doesn't want no stinking investigation. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #40
Do I believe that it happened? Yeah... Baconator Nov 2017 #34
NO I DON'T. There are too many holes in her story. trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #35
No it was an organized hit job kimbutgar Nov 2017 #37
Not for a damn minute. nt cwydro Nov 2017 #41
No diane in sf Nov 2017 #42
I believe Franken didn't act appropriately. There's a reason he's apologized twice mythology Nov 2017 #43
He's been fairly specific in saying he does not recall things like Tweeden did or bettyellen Nov 2017 #55
Not necessarily true. Caliman73 Nov 2017 #67
As soon as I heard that Roger Stone was involved Stryst Nov 2017 #45
Well put. Duppers Nov 2017 #47
No. Duppers Nov 2017 #46
No. avebury Nov 2017 #48
Hell no. Her career needed a boost. BigBearJohn Nov 2017 #49
let me see, she gladly jumped on the birther nonsense hoping it would get her back on the front line grantcart Nov 2017 #50
Make that Robin Williams MagickMuffin Nov 2017 #110
Auto correct is hilarious sometimes grantcart Nov 2017 #114
NO. Silver Gaia Nov 2017 #51
NO! This is rethuglican rat-fucking... Raster Nov 2017 #52
NO Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #53
Nein tenderfoot Nov 2017 #54
Nope Olafjoy Nov 2017 #57
No, course not. They tried to turn a strength into a weakness as usual. betsuni Nov 2017 #58
Nope, not one bit Dream Girl Nov 2017 #60
What did she say this time? jmowreader Nov 2017 #61
For me, it's come to: sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #62
The ladies on the view would have asked her marlakay Nov 2017 #65
Yes. Awkward silence, Megan quickly swooping in to save her buddy from the hard task of betsuni Nov 2017 #68
I am not sure after a few days marlakay Nov 2017 #69
After a few days, yes, they change opinions with more information. betsuni Nov 2017 #87
I am sad about that too marlakay Nov 2017 #111
Opportunistic character assination... FarPoint Nov 2017 #66
NO MFM008 Nov 2017 #70
NO. I never believed her underthematrix Nov 2017 #71
NO NO NO syringis Nov 2017 #72
No arthritisR_US Nov 2017 #73
I never believe ANYONE with a political agenda and conveniently timed accusations DFW Nov 2017 #74
Pil poil ce que je pense syringis Nov 2017 #107
I believe her but I still stand with Al Franken. Bucky Nov 2017 #77
At first... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #78
I believe Roger Stone, he'd never lie. Mc Mike Nov 2017 #79
No. She deliberately misrepresented what really happened. She lied! oasis Nov 2017 #80
No. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #81
For at least part Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #82
No. Owl Nov 2017 #84
No TEB Nov 2017 #85
The problem is that there are multiple accusations. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #86
If he has a problem (present tense) why haven't there been any recent stories, do you think? Demit Nov 2017 #101
I do cyclonefence Nov 2017 #88
My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 2017 #94
No! mfcorey1 Nov 2017 #89
Her story is suspect BECAUSE of the flak jacket photo Martin Eden Nov 2017 #90
For all of you Butterflylady Nov 2017 #91
That the picture was taken? Bettie Nov 2017 #93
I do not. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #95
I think she found the long-forgotten photo and, with her current politics, WinkyDink Nov 2017 #96
Nyet Chipper Chat Nov 2017 #98
No rock Nov 2017 #99
I think She showed the photo to Hannity and he yuiyoshida Nov 2017 #100
This thread is awful oberliner Nov 2017 #102
The sound of one hand clapping . . . . Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #112
Apparently we prefer hypocrisy. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #119
No way!! womanofthehills Nov 2017 #103
Nope. nt prayin4rain Nov 2017 #104
No. shanny Nov 2017 #105
No, but the Democratic Party has created this dilemma njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #106
I beleive Leann, but.... louis c Nov 2017 #108
No Gothmog Nov 2017 #109
Not really. I'm still betting she has an autographed copy of that photo at home. Vinca Nov 2017 #115
No EricMaundry Nov 2017 #117
No, I don't. eom Tipperary Nov 2017 #118
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