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argyl

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116. Even here in Texas some people are seeing the light.

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 03:35 PM

Nov 2017

A couple of people I once worked with come to mind.
One actually jumped off the GOP train in 2008. He was especially repulsed by Sarah Palin and said he was done with any group that would put her so close to power. He voted Obama twice and voted for Hillary.
And one guy pulled the lever for Trump and very quickly regretted it. I didn’t even talk politics with him; he was ultra right to say the least. But Trump’s lying on every campaign promise of any merit. The cruelty of stripping the ACA simply because it was Obama’s bill sickened him. His warmongering stances also angered him. And this grab bag of goodies for the uberwealthy tax bill with yet more piled on the middle and lower middle class was the final. He’s no evangelical so no smarmy preacher will show him “the error of his ways.”
These are only two people but they’re done with the GOP. And no one will be coming to take their place.

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I am still constantly amazed by the callousness of Trump supporters [View all] hamsterjill Nov 2017 OP

Sounds like a good opportunity to have reminded her about Jesus' stance on health care. LonePirate Nov 2017 #1

Tribalism combined with ignorance, is really ugly Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #27

What do you expect from the scum of the earth. Another name for Repukians. olegramps Nov 2017 #120

What would Jesus do? I guess they fell asleep during Bible Study. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2

You have to wonder....... MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #10

Next time I hear BS, I am tempted to say, oh I am not a christian, is this what Jesus teaches? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #12

You got THAT right!!!! MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #17

Religion has been an excuse for bad and brutal behavior for centuries. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #18

On the contrary, mdbl Nov 2017 #62

Some founders of a religious movement were good at heart, others not so much. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #74

It's also inspired some great, charitable behaviors.. whathehell Nov 2017 #77

Religion reflects human nature, a mixture of superb good and heinous evil. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #78

Than maybe we should be blaming human nature.. whathehell Nov 2017 #82

In part yes, but some religious seem to target the dark side of human nature. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #83

No more than political ideologies, actually... whathehell Nov 2017 #89

Yes, but I was taking a longer view: Crusades, inquisitions, etc. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #91

I think Id say Im not a Christian. Im a Christ follower. woodsprite Nov 2017 #60

Yes a much better term. Many Christians do not follow the teachings of Christ. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #75

It's not limited to Christianity, though whathehell Nov 2017 #79

Yes, human nature tends to override religious beliefs. :( Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #80

Yes, so again, maybe we should focus on improving human nature whathehell Nov 2017 #84

Yes I agree. And not let people get away with using religion as Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #85

Nor political ideologies.. whathehell Nov 2017 #90

Exactly. Politics and religion are excuses for people to act out their dark side. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #92

Are you saying you have no political ideology? whathehell Nov 2017 #94

Of course I have a political ideology. Politics can speak to our good side Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #96

This was my point.. whathehell Nov 2017 #121

I put myself in this category, too. hamsterjill Nov 2017 #105

Yes, Jesus had a good message. Too bad the Christians are ruining it. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #113

"Jesus had a good message, and the 'christians' are ruining it." Amen. n/t sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #119

Thank you. LiberalBrooke Nov 2017 #69

A lot of these people have never read the Bible NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #98

Pretty sure the Bible doesn't say to prevent sick or injured children from seeking medical care. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #100

What you said. Sadly, that's the case in many so-called houses of worship. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #118

No. They turned to the Old Testament. CrispyQ Nov 2017 #112

Hate is easy.... FarPoint Nov 2017 #3

Hate is not easy. They are defective. Cruel Greedy Monsters Alice11111 Nov 2017 #48

I am not surprised at all. I saw this during the 60's by pretty much the same people. I suspect walkingman Nov 2017 #4

Yep, agree, there are a lot of ugly Baby Boomers, sad part is, they will probably be replaced RKP5637 Nov 2017 #6

I resent that Brainstormy Nov 2017 #8

Yep! You're correct! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #14

That's right, Boomers also produced the Hippies. Ligyron Nov 2017 #15

Yes indeed. Hippy forever. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #106

It's incredible, the ugliness these people hold in their hearts, minds and souls. What amazes me are RKP5637 Nov 2017 #5

A bible, a Jesus band and lots of guns. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #49

I think when whites become the minority things will change. walkingman Nov 2017 #126

I think he represents about half, but the leadership of Alice11111 Nov 2017 #127

Gandhi: lastlib Nov 2017 #65

There is content to the label "Deplorables" UTUSN Nov 2017 #7

Same in my family. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #9

"The irony never touched my father." MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #23

Me too. My brother went to one extreme. I went to the other. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #50

My mother once told me that during the Depression, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #36

The worst ones are always loud about their godliness also JI7 Nov 2017 #11

Mother of my best friend grew up in the rural south (re. high-decibel proclamations of faith) hatrack Nov 2017 #93

I think I would have said ... MLAA Nov 2017 #13

I guess she would have shut down that kairos12 Nov 2017 #16

I like to throw bible verses in their faces. onlyadream Nov 2017 #19

Ha! So do I.... paleotn Nov 2017 #28

Then do the by their fruits you will know them. Oppaloopa Nov 2017 #66

What you do to the least of us, you do to me. onlyadream Nov 2017 #81

That's good you throw it back at them. Maybe you can Alice11111 Nov 2017 #51

She is not even thinking treestar Nov 2017 #20

"People they don't personally know are not human to them." Alice11111 Nov 2017 #52

Im not surprised anymore but yea I amazed. DangerousUrNot Nov 2017 #21

I have personally experienced it. They go batshit crazy if Alice11111 Nov 2017 #53

Callousness, stupidity, or lack of common decency?? ailsagirl Nov 2017 #22

A soul is fit to receive infilling with beneficence or lack of/or diminished beneficence. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #46

It is disheartening ailsagirl Nov 2017 #115

I suppose the modern day Pharisees skip right over this one.... paleotn Nov 2017 #24

Or today's Gospel reading 47of74 Nov 2017 #37

It goes in one ear and out the other LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #108

True 47of74 Nov 2017 #110

'Whitewashed tombs'. Matthew 23:27-28. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #122

They may know Scripture...........but........ ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2017 #25

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. 47of74 Nov 2017 #38

You gotta' love that Shakespeare!!! ailsagirl Nov 2017 #39

Wow. His genius still amazes me.Thx. I Always enjoyed MV Alice11111 Nov 2017 #54

Fantastic quote (of the day/week/month/year/Century of Christomerican Hypocrisy) Rainbow Droid Nov 2017 #64

Monsters and idiots. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #26

The Great State of Texas shadowmayor Nov 2017 #29

El Paso? roscoeroscoe Nov 2017 #59

My dad was from El Paso. VOX Nov 2017 #71

They are idiot racist fuckheads. That is the entirety of it. Orrex Nov 2017 #30

It's just their inate racism... cntrfthrs Nov 2017 #31

I often wonder what the world would be like without the religious Enoki33 Nov 2017 #32

"If Jesus came back and saw was was done in his name, he would oasis Nov 2017 #33

He would go on a rampage. roamer65 Nov 2017 #47

it starts at your local rw radio stations and many depend on university and pro sports certainot Nov 2017 #34

Their racism is the zentrum Nov 2017 #35

Monsters is an understatement. Initech Nov 2017 #40

I hear that crap every day here in Marble Falls, I heard a woman during a Service League luncheon... marble falls Nov 2017 #41

I happen to know someone in MF hamsterjill Nov 2017 #44

Its the echo box. Its all they hear. marble falls Nov 2017 #45

"Invasion of the Body Snatchers," with Donald Sutherland Alice11111 Nov 2017 #55

Not any more Va Lefty Nov 2017 #42

"The dirt's all coming out in a wash?" n/t sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #123

I hear you. I've been stunned by how callous they can be. Solly Mack Nov 2017 #43

+1000 Alice11111 Nov 2017 #56

Wow. nocalflea Nov 2017 #57

Many so-called Christians are the biggest hypocrites and frauds when democratisphere Nov 2017 #58

Shame-based paradigms have always been used by organized religion to corral power, lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #61

And the absolute WORST of the tRump* supporters... Raster Nov 2017 #63

I am amazed that anyone is amazed beachbum bob Nov 2017 #67

that is just part of their hatred to others! BlueJac Nov 2017 #68

These are the Nazis that would have been Hitlers core support Oneironaut Nov 2017 #70

Yeah, I've cut as many of the fuckers out of my life as I can maxrandb Nov 2017 #72

Yeah, we're gettin' ours, screw the stragglers. Wickedness in places. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #124

I would have asked why she calls herself a Christian if she's not following the teachings of Christ. Vinca Nov 2017 #73

What did you say or do about this? electron_blue Nov 2017 #76

I confronted her, and she wound up storming out of the restaurant hamsterjill Nov 2017 #103

thank you! electron_blue Dec 2017 #128

I'm not; I just can't get past the hypocrisy. alarimer Nov 2017 #86

Many of them feel the same way about American minimum wage workers IronLionZion Nov 2017 #87

They had to learn to be monsters jimlup Nov 2017 #88

Matthew 25: ollie10 Nov 2017 #95

In the Catholic Church that was the Gospel reading this past Sunday kydo Nov 2017 #101

Love this! hamsterjill Nov 2017 #109

They have been propagandized to be this way. PatrickforO Nov 2017 #97

"Monsters" is such a polite word. I go straight to "assholes". n/t SpankMe Nov 2017 #99

It is why your average trumpster has no issues with the racist, murderous dictator Putin Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #102

That's why I have pretty much Bettie Nov 2017 #104

Sounds like Republican Jesus again. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #107

I heard an Alabama middle aged woman state her angst over having to choose between CrispyQ Nov 2017 #111

it should no longer come as any surprise that these people are monsters. only monsters niyad Nov 2017 #114

Even here in Texas some people are seeing the light. argyl Nov 2017 #116

Another difficult thing to understand is that these supporters Enoki33 Nov 2017 #117

WWJD back atcha, lady. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #125