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Showing Original Post only (View all)When Meghan weds Harry, Britains relationship with race will change for ever [View all]

Almost two decades ago, during the heady first months of the new millennium, an unruly baroness named Kate Gavron made a shocking suggestion. Prince Charles, she said, should have married someone black. It would be, she imagined, a powerful symbol of the monarchys commitment to racial integration and multiculturalism.
Gavrons comments were not well received at the time. As is so often the case with race and the royals, far more interesting than these remarks themselves, were the media reactions to them. Some suspected this was merely a clandestine attempt at getting rid of the monarchy, erasing their heritage through interracial marriages. Not so much revolution, as racial dilution.
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But we live in times defined also by identity. In recent years, the question of what it means to be British has been weaponised and politicised in new ways. Markle is, on one side of her family, directly descended from the plantation slavery of Americas Deep South - a history with which all of Britains powerful families, including the royals, are inextricably linked. He may not have realised it at the time, but by condemning the press reaction to his relationships with Markle, Prince Harry was aligning himself with those still dealing with the fallout of that history, and its very real legacy today.
If Prince Harry had wanted to find a way to make his role more relevant in modern Britain, he could have done a lot worse. And so while neither the reaction to his engagement to Markle, nor the reaction to the reaction, could ever have been planned, if engagements are meant to bring people together, this one is doing just that.
Gavrons comments were not well received at the time. As is so often the case with race and the royals, far more interesting than these remarks themselves, were the media reactions to them. Some suspected this was merely a clandestine attempt at getting rid of the monarchy, erasing their heritage through interracial marriages. Not so much revolution, as racial dilution.
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But we live in times defined also by identity. In recent years, the question of what it means to be British has been weaponised and politicised in new ways. Markle is, on one side of her family, directly descended from the plantation slavery of Americas Deep South - a history with which all of Britains powerful families, including the royals, are inextricably linked. He may not have realised it at the time, but by condemning the press reaction to his relationships with Markle, Prince Harry was aligning himself with those still dealing with the fallout of that history, and its very real legacy today.
If Prince Harry had wanted to find a way to make his role more relevant in modern Britain, he could have done a lot worse. And so while neither the reaction to his engagement to Markle, nor the reaction to the reaction, could ever have been planned, if engagements are meant to bring people together, this one is doing just that.
Really pissing off the racists! LOL
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Soph0571
Nov 2017
OP
Disagree...the UK already has one the highest populations of bi-racial and interracial marriages..
HipChick
Nov 2017
#1
The British monarchy has never had a biracial marriage. This will be a sea change. n/t
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#7
I'm not impressed...Harry is an unemployed, uneducated racist lazy spoiled playboy
adigal
Nov 2017
#23
I spent a summer that, that's all. But it was enough to know that they have racists, too. n/t
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#20
"Theresa May vows to tackle racism after a report reveals shocking extent of discrimination."
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#24
Many do refer to Indians as blacks. Now I wonder whether you really did live there. That's a tell.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#40
Who are "Many"? I suggest you stop googling, and ask a British born Indian person
HipChick
Nov 2017
#41
People of Indian descent don't call THEMSELVES that. But WHITE British people sometimes do,
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#42
You're changing the goalposts now. I never said the majority of British people would do that.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#49
British people of Indian descent aren't "Anglo-British." Anglo-Saxons are Anglo-British.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#64
I believe the choice to include people of broadly Indian descent among the group "blacks"
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#48
Thanks for the confirmation Denzil_DC...Certainly not used as an everyday usage
HipChick
Nov 2017
#52
@cwydro I know of what you speak...It took me years to train both my parents out of it..
HipChick
Nov 2017
#83
Still googling? No substitue for living there...guess you missed the whole British riots
HipChick
Nov 2017
#44
Can't you read? I explicitly said several times that people of Indian descent in Britain
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#65
A couple years ago I thought Americans were less racist than I've learned they are.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#66
The "custom" of fair skinned northern Italians calling those in the south "blacks"
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#67
Harry's used to it, but I sure hope Meghan & family can withstand the glaring media spotlight, and..
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2017
#19
As we devolve into a world ruled by a few oligarchs, and the subsequent obscene income inequality
jalan48
Nov 2017
#46
High-ranking British men have been having relationships with dark-skinned women for centuries
FarCenter
Nov 2017
#47
Prince Charles had a fling with Sheila Ferguson, singer of the group The Three Degrees
HipChick
Nov 2017
#62
That's been happening with UK newspaper comments sections for much more than a decade.
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#74