No right is absolute

[gejohnston]

128. so absolute, NFA is being struck down as we speak?

And as far as the second Ammendment early in our history we had a rebellion put down by the Army, under the direct command of the CiC. I think one George Washington had a clue about that, maybe as a founder, he still needed the NRA and Scalia to tell him what he meant.

Actually, the overwhelming scholarship agrees with Scalia. The "collectivist" theory did not exist until the mid 20th century. Oh yeah, it was SAF, the NRA did nothing.

We already have limits on speech, famously not being able to scream fire in a crowded theater. There are others, such as libel and defamation, but suggest reasonable laws, such as closing the gun show loop sends fans of the second into fits.

gun show loophole is a misnomer. How would you regulate intra state private sales without violating the commerce clause?

Part of the reason is that things reasonable people agree upon, such as background checks, are transformed into fear campaigns of they will take my guns. These are fear campaigns, period.

Background checks are federal law, but in the past Brady et al have admitted to an incremental approach, and they never opposed a ban. I'm skeptical.

We average 20 mass shootings a year, per the Brady campaign, and major incidents are happening more and more often.

and you take propaganda from an advocacy group at face value?

I will repeat this, no right is absolute, yet none is comming to grab your guns. The NRA is no longer rational, and we need some rational limits...as in background checks that will keep guns from mentally insane, and people who served time in prison.

We do. BTW, Canada allows most felons to legally own guns once they served their time.

We also need access to mental health care... And we will need to sooner or later reconsider this policy

that we agree 100 percent

But we have 34 people murdered a day, and 40% of all sales are not screened in a background check

. Most of them are criminals killing other criminals

But hey...

Oh and we own guns... But I am in favor of background checks for all who buy a fire arm.

I expect this to go nowhere, so let the killing continue, since the 2nd Ammendment, I am told, is absolute.

Shill studies on both sides show gun laws affect crime rates. Studies done by criminologists who belong to neither camp and are not funded by either show that there is no evidence that gun laws affect violent crime either way. If the 2A were as absolute as you claim, does that mean NFA-34 and the other four federal gun laws we have now are being struck down? No? So, I guess it isn't so absolute is it?