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46. WTF are you talking about??

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:17 AM

Jul 2012

"The .223 was designed to have only just enough rotation -WHAT THE HELL DOES ROTATION HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? AS LONG AS THE TWIST RATE IS ADEQUATE TO STABILIZE THE BULLET THEN 'ROTATION' HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT-that
when it strikes an object it acts
like a dud-A DUD? PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS- and has the stopping
action of a 50 caliber weapon.-REALLY? WHAT 50 CALIBER WEAPON? A MUZZEL LOADER? EVER COMPARED ENERGY LEVELS BETWEEN THE 50BMG AND THE 223/5.56?-
What makes it so bad is that the bullet is meant to travel
throughout the target it hits and
then fragment."-WHAT? ONLY BULLETS DESIGNED TO FRAGMENT WILL FRAGMENT. THE FAMOUS FULL METAL JACKET WILL NOT FRAGMENT.

I suggest you educate yourself on external and terminal ballistics before you go spewing false information to everyone

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The .223 A Very Deadly Bullet [View all] TheMastersNemesis Jul 2012 OP

So the excuse of hunting would be bogus SoutherDem Jul 2012 #1

For deer-hunting, you do need a high-powered, lethal bullet. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #5

The 7.62*39 works well too ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #8

Makes sense I guess, I am not a hunter so I don't know, SoutherDem Jul 2012 #9

Some Idaho deer hunters use the .223 jmowreader Jul 2012 #17

The .223 works nice for ... bayareaboy Jul 2012 #25

deer hunters dont commonly use a 30.30 backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #42

Sorry, but the 30-30 is the MOST COMMON deer rifle in Wisconsin (600,000 hunters annually)... Scuba Jul 2012 #51

My 30-30 is just fine in Iowa too. .223 illegal to use in Iowa for deer min cal is .24 n/t IADEMO2004 Jul 2012 #114

How odd that there is such a thing as bow hunting. nt cwydro Jul 2012 #124

Spitting out bullet fragments at the dinner table is part of the meal. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #20

I don't know any hunters who use 100 round clips. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #134

Oh well, who cares. It's an American's right to have any kind of gun/ammunition that exists. enough Jul 2012 #2

No, it's not. In fact a lot of states won't even let you shoot Bambi's mom with it Edweird Jul 2012 #3

I've killed lot's of turkey and a few deer with the 223. ileus Jul 2012 #4

Do you eat the coyote? panader0 Jul 2012 #11

Coyotes are a huge problem for cattle ranchers as well as killing private live stock and chickens rl6214 Jul 2012 #16

I would only do it if Fish and Game recommended it due to overpopulation. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #23

Just sayin---the coyotes were here before the cattle, private live stock or chickens panader0 Jul 2012 #27

Ah yes, those poor, poor cattle ranchers. Doremus Jul 2012 #28

Are you a vegan? rl6214 Jul 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #45

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author rl6214 Jul 2012 #63

I don't think I was talking to you rl6214 Jul 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #72

What is a gun nut? sav99 Jul 2012 #75

There are gun owners and gun nuts. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2012 #83

Thats interesting. Thanks for answering. sav99 Jul 2012 #92

Why, yes I am, thanks for asking. Doremus Jul 2012 #73

Watching a coyote blithly carry off another of my cats makes me ill and makes my blood boil uppityperson Jul 2012 #80

Leaving your beloved cats to roam wild and complaining about what happens to them? Doremus Jul 2012 #112

Nope. They are inside/outside cats not "roam wild". They eat, drink, sleep, poop inside uppityperson Jul 2012 #113

If your cats are able to wander freely outdoors, Doremus Jul 2012 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jul 2012 #117

Self deleted as I have no desire to get into a snark fest. Too much bs going on in the world uppityperson Jul 2012 #118

your cats shouldn't be outside tru Jul 2012 #119

Thank you for your concern. Cats eat the mice and rats. Coyotes can get into many enclosures, I have uppityperson Jul 2012 #120

So which is it? Doremus Jul 2012 #127

Hence why I don't like coyotes. Thank you for your concern but I'm not going to argue with you. uppityperson Jul 2012 #128

I think you're not going to argue because you don't have one. Doremus Jul 2012 #130

Thank you for replying respectfully rl6214 Jul 2012 #123

It ain't just cattle ranchers that have problems. JoeyT Jul 2012 #50

I give you props for trying. Doremus Jul 2012 #74

Fortunately it worked. JoeyT Jul 2012 #126

Because they kill livestocks and pets obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #52

coyote attacks on humans are rare handmade34 Jul 2012 #76

The coyotes in the East are very inbred with feral dogs obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #78

coydogs handmade34 Jul 2012 #84

Yup, they are aggressive here obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #96

Coyotes killed one of my calves.. proudgunowner Jul 2012 #115

We used to have sheep tularetom Jul 2012 #54

Coyotes are very aggressive here in Colorado Springs Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #122

Some good science and math on the issue belcffub Jul 2012 #6

Utter nonsense ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #7

Kind of wondering about that claim myself.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #10

Me too, unless it was in the head obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #59

+1 Marinedem Jul 2012 #12

Fact is they went to the smaller caliber to get away from so much killing power. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #35

I think it had more to do with logistics. bluedigger Jul 2012 #37

Ridiculous post. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #13

i doubt that fellow was in nam... for some reason.... dionysus Jul 2012 #69

I don't belive you Ptah Jul 2012 #14

That's why most states will not allow the .223 for deer hunting, a larger caliber is required rl6214 Jul 2012 #15

The .223 is designed to be light, inexpensive and easy to train on jmowreader Jul 2012 #18

Used both the M-14 and M-16 The Wizard Jul 2012 #26

They dropped it to a .223 Go Vols Jul 2012 #19

Where did you come up with this line of nonsense? Drahthaardogs Jul 2012 #21

It is also not considered a defensive round obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #60

lol JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #22

I was just talking to an active duty guy.. glowing Jul 2012 #24

First off... the rifle and the ammunition are two different things krispos42 Jul 2012 #29

Ballistically, the .223 is almost identical to the .222 Mag. It's a dressed-up varmint rifle. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #30

For deer, gimme a .30-06 or .308 any day. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #82

Theyre all deadly. rrneck Jul 2012 #31

"The .223 ... acts like a dud ..." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #32

Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 with a "whimpy" 9mm and .22LR Kennah Jul 2012 #33

Oh Jeez... Serve The Servants Jul 2012 #34

I was wondering how he financed everything, myself. bluedigger Jul 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author D23MIURG23 Jul 2012 #36

OMG Get out of Here with your BS EpsilonZer0 Jul 2012 #38

AK-47s also were also tremendously reliable. They rarely jammed, compared to M-16s. Selatius Jul 2012 #44

Tremendously reliable, and dead simple lapislzi Jul 2012 #135

glad im not the only one CbtEngr01 Jul 2012 #49

Interesting Comments TheMastersNemesis Jul 2012 #40

Do you understand that most posters here are saying you're full of shit? Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #125

I dunno where you got your ballistics info, cliffordu Jul 2012 #43

He pulled his entire OP out of a place where the Sun never shines slackmaster Jul 2012 #61

WTF are you talking about?? CbtEngr01 Jul 2012 #46

Oh look - the OP made this poster screaming angry. ellisonz Jul 2012 #48

Sadly, what he's screaming is right. JoeyT Jul 2012 #55

This isn't AR-15.com... ellisonz Jul 2012 #64

No, there's a different kind of ignorance. JoeyT Jul 2012 #66

He's not interested in facts. Clames Jul 2012 #111

because the OP was lying his face off. dionysus Jul 2012 #70

Eliisonz, please use your magic powers to send this thread to the Gungeon. It's unbearable in GD now freshwest Jul 2012 #107

the myth warrprayer Jul 2012 #53

The boattail on a bullet is to lessen the vacuum area it oneshooter Jul 2012 #98

??? warrprayer Jul 2012 #129

Read this RegieRocker Jul 2012 #102

I can't warrprayer Jul 2012 #133

It works RegieRocker Jul 2012 #136

If I am ever shot, please let it be with a .22 or .223 obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #56

This person knows what they are talking about RegieRocker Jul 2012 #57

LOL. A predictably fact-free post. More fairy tales. Edweird Jul 2012 #65

Got ya! RegieRocker Jul 2012 #67

LULZ. You made the bullshit claim - you substantiate it. Edweird Jul 2012 #71

It will go right through this one: AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #77

"It's an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools." Edweird Jul 2012 #81

You made the bullshit claim RegieRocker Jul 2012 #85

33% F Edweird Jul 2012 #90

No RegieRocker Jul 2012 #95

This Edweird Jul 2012 #100

Nope RegieRocker Jul 2012 #104

That means nothing. Edweird Jul 2012 #106

Another over the top waaayyyy out there RegieRocker Jul 2012 #138

This Edweird Jul 2012 #101

Try and get a permit and if you can get one RegieRocker Jul 2012 #105

People have them. You know it. Edweird Jul 2012 #108

This Edweird Jul 2012 #103

Uh huh...sure RegieRocker Jul 2012 #139

You forgot "The bullet finds a vein and travels up it to the victim's heart" slackmaster Jul 2012 #58

a military round of that caliber has a high powder load and goes right through people. dionysus Jul 2012 #68

As with the OP I saw this RegieRocker Jul 2012 #88

This OP proves the poster knows absolutely nothing about firearms. nt GarroHorus Jul 2012 #79

That would be you and that is plain to all who do. RegieRocker Jul 2012 #86

Are you honestly suggesting the OP was correct about the .223? GarroHorus Jul 2012 #87

Most of it. The parts that matter. RegieRocker Jul 2012 #89

HE was 100% inaccurate about that round nt GarroHorus Jul 2012 #91

Wrong on several items. oneshooter Jul 2012 #93

That was back then. Then was then RegieRocker Jul 2012 #97

Looks to me like oneshooter was referring to "back then", the same time period as the OP... Marengo Jul 2012 #132

Were you ready for immediate action? RegieRocker Jul 2012 #137

No, the 223 round is a high velocity round. pwb Jul 2012 #94

Read this and scroll down RegieRocker Jul 2012 #99

Ever here of a ricochet? pwb Jul 2012 #110

This 24 year old medical student did NOT act alone... lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #109

Yeah, this is a myth Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #121

Hate to rain on the parade Rex Jul 2012 #131

Locking SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #140