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In reply to the discussion: Is it just me or does this sound transphobic [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)4. More on Terfs from rationalwiki
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminism
Trans-exclusionary radical feminism (TERF; also Trans women exclusionary feminism or TWEF[note 1]) is a subgroup of radical feminism characterized by transphobia, especially transmisogyny,[note 2] and hostility to the third wave of feminism. They believe that the only real women are those born with a vagina and XX chromosomes.[note 3] They wish to completely enforce the classic gender binary, supporting gender essentialism.
The term "TERF" is not used by those in the group, who consider it a damnable slur and a term of abuse, and think of themselves as perfectly reasonable radical feminists[2] (and, indeed, the only thing that should be called "feminism"
. They tend instead to terms like "gender critical", which is for the same general public relations reason that white nationalists insistently present themselves as mere "race realists" and tankies try to rebrand Stalin apologetics as "anti-revisionism."
Even sub-branches of feminist thought known to house individual TERFs, including second wave feminists and political lesbians, have spoken out against this exact transphobia and transmisogyny within their own ranks, further demonstrating the distance between TERFs and mainstream feminism.[3][4]
TERFs (and SWERFs) are a tiny subset of feminism,[note 4] but an unduly influential one: legislators seeking feminist input will often get an academic TERF, who will then get transphobia into law.[5] Their doxxing,[6] trolling,[7] picketing,[8] and generally abusive behaviour has earned them the title of "Westboro Baptist Church of feminism"[9]; because they are to feminism what the WBC is to Christianity.[10] They are, in short, a hate group that by no means represents mainstream feminism.[11] By virtue of these facts, the TERF movement can actually be understood as being overtly anti-feminist.[note 5]
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Trans-exclusionary radical feminism (TERF; also Trans women exclusionary feminism or TWEF[note 1]) is a subgroup of radical feminism characterized by transphobia, especially transmisogyny,[note 2] and hostility to the third wave of feminism. They believe that the only real women are those born with a vagina and XX chromosomes.[note 3] They wish to completely enforce the classic gender binary, supporting gender essentialism.
The term "TERF" is not used by those in the group, who consider it a damnable slur and a term of abuse, and think of themselves as perfectly reasonable radical feminists[2] (and, indeed, the only thing that should be called "feminism"
Even sub-branches of feminist thought known to house individual TERFs, including second wave feminists and political lesbians, have spoken out against this exact transphobia and transmisogyny within their own ranks, further demonstrating the distance between TERFs and mainstream feminism.[3][4]
TERFs (and SWERFs) are a tiny subset of feminism,[note 4] but an unduly influential one: legislators seeking feminist input will often get an academic TERF, who will then get transphobia into law.[5] Their doxxing,[6] trolling,[7] picketing,[8] and generally abusive behaviour has earned them the title of "Westboro Baptist Church of feminism"[9]; because they are to feminism what the WBC is to Christianity.[10] They are, in short, a hate group that by no means represents mainstream feminism.[11] By virtue of these facts, the TERF movement can actually be understood as being overtly anti-feminist.[note 5]
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Terfs are bigots, its that simple. Yes they are transphobic but thats just the beginning nt
stevenleser
Nov 2017
#2
Now that you explain it to me I can say I had a friend backin the early 80's in Los Angeles that
wasupaloopa
Nov 2017
#25
Just put yourself in the position of a trans man giving birth, looking for a midwife,
Ms. Toad
Nov 2017
#37
Well, if a particular man gives birth, then the medical personnel should refer to him as a him.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#23
Not fake in that this apparently actually happened from what I could find re Google
kcr
Nov 2017
#22
Men can be TERFs too. It's not an identity-based label. It's based only on one's beliefs.
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#41
TERF is a well deserved "slur." It offends the TERFs, just like how white supremacists hate being
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#39
There is no "agenda." The supposed "agenda" is a right wing strawman created to discredit the LGBTQ
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#48
There are real transphobic people who happen to identify as feminists, who hate transpeople
kcr
Nov 2017
#51
There is a sub on Reddit called "GenderCritical," for example, that is used by TERFs.
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#53
If you call Westboro Church out for being bigots, is that an attack on all Christianity?
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#58
Christianity (or Feminism) is just the ideology that they are a part of, but they're extremists.
Oneironaut
Nov 2017
#62