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In reply to the discussion: New Reports Suggest Trump Might Not Be a Liar at All, But Truly Delusional. [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)16. Basically agree except the word psychotic/psychosis.
NIH/National Institute of Mental Health: The word psychosis is used to describe conditions that affect the mind, where there has been some loss of contact with reality. When someone becomes ill in this way it is called a psychotic episode. During a period of psychosis, a persons thoughts and perceptions are disturbed and the individual may have difficulty understanding what is real and what is not. Symptoms of psychosis include delusions (false beliefs) and hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear). Other symptoms include incoherent or nonsense speech, and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation. A person in a psychotic episode may also experience depression, anxiety, sleep problems, social withdrawal, lack of motivation, and difficulty functioning overall.
"Loss of contact with reality" does not mean adopting opinions that are contradicted by facts out of personal preference. It means insane.
There are reasons personality disorders and disorders involving insanity (my term, not the profession's) are diagnoses as different disorders. Personality disorders can affect cognition, and even in severe forms involve psychotic episodes. But, push come to shove, those people aren't crazy and can be brought to see reality for what it is, even if they often refuse to. Psychotic people cannot.
We've seen far too much of Trump to believe he's insane, and also far too much to believe he's not nevertheless disordered in some other way.
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New Reports Suggest Trump Might Not Be a Liar at All, But Truly Delusional. [View all]
Cattledog
Nov 2017
OP
No, he had no signs of that when he was younger. His abnormality is something different.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#9
It's funny, but I have always thought he had a kind of "fetal alcohol syndrome" look about him,
smirkymonkey
Nov 2017
#42
if he believes things that are demonstrably false he is delusional, i.e., psychotic.
tomp
Nov 2017
#11
He is such an extreme narcissist that he is psychotic. To him, the only reality that exists
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#7
Yep, agree!!! "Dementia is obviously exacerbating Trump's erratic personality, but
RKP5637
Nov 2017
#36
I keep wondering if he has had a series of small strokes. My father did and no one but me realized
OregonBlue
Nov 2017
#50
On top of all this he said re: N.Korea's ICBM test today, "We will take care of it."
PearliePoo2
Nov 2017
#8
Yep, I have a horrible feeling this is not going to end well ... a living nightmare. n/t
RKP5637
Nov 2017
#37
Yep, he does know a good portion of the US is off its rocker and uses that to his advantage. n/t
RKP5637
Nov 2017
#38
Third option is he is a knave. Lies, knows it, and has a malevolent purpose.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2017
#53
He is deliberately gaslighting and projecting, knowing that some people will believe his lies
wishstar
Nov 2017
#43
Or, he doesn't know he is President and just reads the lines for his part in a T-V show.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#52