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In reply to the discussion: I'm from the UK where debates about guns don't exist. [View all]obamanut2012
(27,450 posts)154. What happens if a rabid raccoon comes into your yard?
Or a feral pig attacks you while you're trailrunning or hiking? Pepper spray won't work. Wait, I just Googled and pepper spray is illegal in the UK, so forget the pepper spray part.
How do people in Britain protect their livestock from coyotes and wolves?
I don't hunt, but I know they are lots of canned hunts in Britain (I'm a Royals watcher), so how do those folks get the guns? Are regular folks allowed to hunt, or just Royalty and the aristocracy, and really rich people like Richard Branson?
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erm you do know that their are still guns used in crimes and the knife culture is horrific
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#1
I think i saw somewhere you are more likely to be assaulted in the Uk than in the US
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#4
err i think you will find it was my post and i said you are more likely to be assaulted in the uk
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#30
Michael Reagan called it our american gun fettish. He's right. Your manhood's on the line.
lindysalsagal
Jul 2012
#131
if they attacked me and i felt in danger, we are talking about getting mugged or assaulted here
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#93
The UK is the size of Wisconsin, and has a much smaller population than USA, too.
MADem
Jul 2012
#83
I was using poor shorthand--I meant to say that it has a smaller population than USA.
MADem
Jul 2012
#128
High population density also leads to a lot more opportunities for interpersonal conflict..
Fumesucker
Jul 2012
#176
I used to live on a farm in UK. The fields were rented to tenants who kept sheep and cows.
MADem
Jul 2012
#159
But what does the size of the population matter when you're evaluating per capita stats?
marmar
Jul 2012
#145
It would be nice if people all over the world became less inclined to murder one another.
Zalatix
Jul 2012
#219
well might be less gun crime but were i live unlike the UK if you break into my home your meeting a
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#32
simple my odds over here of being attacked in my home and killed by a knife wielding ned
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#42
less murders but more assaults, in the UK you can mug someone and be pretty sure they are unarmed
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#56
its much preferable to trying to wrestle a stanley knife out of their hand or if there are more than
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#68
the point is the round goes straight to the target, never seen anyone wrestle a bullet apart from
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#74
Which is one of the many reasons a firearm is superior to a knife for self defense...yes?
Johnny Rico
Jul 2012
#76
Then arm them with what? a knife its been shown that people that carry knifes end up in A&E
Sea-Dog
Jul 2012
#112
it seemed to me that you were saying i cant have a gun and neither can the bad guys
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#6
"its not hard to get a gun in the UK if you pay the money and know the right people." - false.
sibelian
Jul 2012
#7
are you really saying that if you go to salford, or possil or many other estates that you cant get a
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#8
and once again you really really believe that if you have the money and know somebody that you cant
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#11
you could if you knew were to go, hell you tell me were you live and i can tell you were to go
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#23
nope they dont always, but not every criminal has a record so they do buy them legally as well
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#36
yup i know that, was just using it as an example of how easy it is to buy a gun in the UK if you kno
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#37
and you thinking that its not easy to get a gun in the UK is just willful ignorance
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#45
i think its pretty easy to pull up the numbers from reported gun crimes, you can use google
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#67
no the subject is you scolding americans and being high and mighty about the UK and guns
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#77
no i just know enough about americans to know that they dont need your help to solve their problems
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#87
only if you are a total newbie, if your a criminal looking to buy a gun your pretty much dealing wit
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#89
6up bad guys in the business would be more discerning who wants your sale to
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#114
wtf you on about, still havent told me were in the uk your from so i can advise you how easy to get
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#220
I think his point is that you can get guns if you know who to get them from
obamanut2012
Jul 2012
#185
bingo if you belong or have contacts with a fleeto (gang) then its relatively easy
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#223
Don't' even bother to pretend that your overweening arrogance is not the problem
whathehell
Jul 2012
#247
guffaws, of course there is but its supplemented by supporting man utd instead of guns
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#79
Many young British males are indeed members of the "white weapon" cult...
Surya Gayatri
Jul 2012
#239
Is this a serious question? Impossible to tell--it sounds as if you're just being provocative...
Surya Gayatri
Jul 2012
#246
what about knives, i would think that would be of a bigger concern in the UK
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#39
yes im embarressed for you, its like an american coming onto a UK site and trying to be all haughty
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#62
dude forget about the murder rate, if you live in the UK then knives are a concern
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#216
Didn't you know that whole "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" thing was propaganda?
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2012
#43
Ok...how do you propose getting the majority of US gun owners to agree that it "has to be done"?
Johnny Rico
Jul 2012
#66
By explaining to them repeatedly that their lives are at greater risk than necessary.
sibelian
Jul 2012
#80
The anti-gun side has been doing that for decades, and the pro-gun side is more entrenched
Johnny Rico
Jul 2012
#144
okay go ahead and start it, but as the other poster said you are not going to change people
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#233
"of an out-of-control government which has all the guns in its possession"
DainBramaged
Jul 2012
#257
"Why would I need a gun to defend myself in a nation that doesn't really have any guns"?
whathehell
Jul 2012
#48
I wonder if the definitions of 'violent crime' are the same, though
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2012
#95
Indeed; in the UK, you'd get a better idea of prevelance with the British Crime Survey
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2012
#116
What I've heard is Canada has essentially the same gun laws as the US, and much, much less violence
tclambert
Jul 2012
#96
How am I expected to find a gun and load it and aim it if an assailant is already inside my house?
lindysalsagal
Jul 2012
#133
My gun is loaded and is an easy to grab place. Yes, he could grab it and use it against you, but
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#140
Thanks for understanding my position. Which is that a gun is just one of many tools.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#206
The US also has more of a criminal problem than the UK. Lots of murders, serial killers, home
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#111
I suspect current American interest in guns for self-defense has less to do with the "frontier"
HereSince1628
Jul 2012
#120
bingo i am 40 minutes at least from the deputies arriving unless i get luckey
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#211
I'm confident most of America's guns are where most of America's people are-urban and suburban areas
HereSince1628
Jul 2012
#212
If the UK ever had 60 M guns, how would you propose to get rid of them?
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2012
#143
And yet the UK has had many, many dozens of bomb attacks. Way more than here.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2012
#152
Facts mitigating against seriously remedying America's gun problem.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2012
#153
There are no raccoons in Britain, or feral pigs, or wolves, or coyotes
Spider Jerusalem
Jul 2012
#226
Pepper spray and many legitimate martial arts weapons are also illegal in the UK
obamanut2012
Jul 2012
#178
Some of the bans on non-lethal devices are possilby slightly authoritarian, I agree
sibelian
Jul 2012
#240
i am kinda done with these arguments as well, its not going to change any minds and just seems like
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#235