In NJ, James Holmes likely would have been caught before committing his massacre

[freshwest]

71. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But checking out mental health should be an ohjective criteria.

Where I live, records are kept it is law enforcement that knows if a person is unfit to carry a gun. If a person has, for example, been involuntarily committed to a mental ward, there are professionals using objective standards, and families are involved in the process which made it sound like siimilar to our system. As I said, sounds like.

Some people will not overome their mental sitution with a prescription drug or a stay in a hospital, but require a much longer form or a lifetime of care, and there is a determination of what is the last restrictive setting for such individuals where they will not be able to kill themselves or attack others during their episodes. Dependent of the level of incapacity and the record of being able to function safely, that is, not a danger to himself, others or property, that person can be restricted from owning a fire arm for life.

It is not much of a burden as not being able to drive, work, ride public transportation, and does not affect their ability to vote as their situation is a behavioral issue that can be mitigated with care. Owning a weapon is a responsiblity that is greater than voting, driving, working or many other parts of daily living.

Your claim is more about corruption, favoritism or cronyism than a review system. The system that was described was adequate to deal with persons who are not safe to own a deadly weapon by means of proven mental illness. If you lived here and had not convicted of a felony or found otherwise a problem to society, you have had to fill out forms and would have no problems.

I answered the OP which contended that the law in NJ would have prevented a man who many are asssuming to suffer from mental illness, from legal ownership, so I'm not sure what this hysteria is, but corruption in the state of NJ and favortism is the problem, not a system of review.

Since I don't fall into the categories listed as a disqualifier for legal gun ownership, I am not worried about being denied my RKBA where I live. I actually do, however, know some people that have been adjudicated through mental htealth court and are not able to carry a guns. Believe me, being able to carry a gun is the LEAST of their worries.

Some folks are getting emotional and going after neutral comments such as I made about a system described as being reasonable to end a massacre. The responses I've read today are emotional, although yours is well written and not snarky. I merely said it sounded good, didn't call for anyone to deny you your rights.

As as I just explained, your problem when you give examples of who dated who or who has a political sign in their yard not getting a gun permit is not about an objective system. Perhaps you should address your concerns to the OP writer, as he may not know that there are problems with the system he stated.

As far as I am concerned, I can live without a gun. There are guys driving up and down my street every night and day with guns, lots of guns. They are called police. A gun shop is across the street and I can go and buy one, but I don't need to have one. I don't feel the least bit oppressed, either. I would however, be highly aggravated if some of the people that fit the category as a danger to themselves and others were running down the street with a loaded gun, as they do not have sufficient impulse control or judgment to go about without supervision.

It is time for you and others in NJ to fire the police chief by firing the person who appointed him, go into politics, if you think your system is unjust. Or please tell the OP writer. how wrong he is, if you haven't already. The 2nd Amendment is not going to be repealed, and IHMO, none of the laws or conditions for massacres will be changed. ProSense's article about the ban that would have prohibited the purchase of the weapons used made a good point, but that ban is not going to be restored.

There appears to be a bit of hysteria which I am not going to get involved with. The status quo on this has been settled for the rest of my lifetime. The solution to your sense of being wronged is changing the elected officials in your area. Thank you for expressing the problem in enforcing a fair system in NJ.