In NJ, James Holmes likely would have been caught before committing his massacre

[freshwest]

75. The OP didn describe a state with what you term as subjective gun laws. What you describe is not

About a system of regulation, but cronyism and corruptions. A system of regulations about anything can be enforce in an objective manner. I do not know if the OP writer lives in NJ. Perhaps you should ask him.

Your post was full of examples indicating personal knowledge of how such a system would be applied in NJ, which you now say you don't live in. If you did not have this level of knowing what is wrong, why are you going there? You claim that NJ is enforcing 'personal vendettas or political discrimination by law enforcement.'

I also live in a state 'where law-abiding citizens with a clean criminal and mental health background are allowed to own guns' and 'personal vendettas or political discrimination by law enforcement' are NOT a problem here, despite having a number of laws about gun ownership.

You made these charges about New Jersey at the same time you took what I said way out of context:

'Should the Chief of Police be judge and jury?'

What I described in my response to you, did not ask for any such thing. A Chief of Police is not a judge and jury in any state. So why did you go there?

'In NJ, that's what happens.' The OP doesn't mention the Chief of Police, but a system of regulations.

'If the Chief doesn't like you, you don;t get a gun permit. He didn't like your Obama sign in your yard, you dated his niece and cheated on her, you're in an interracial marriage? No gun permit. Maybe your boss calls you a Communist during the process, guess what? No permit.'

That is a lot to say about New Jersey. And your references are all personal ones that don't prove that, the Chief of Police, who is not mentioned in the OP, but rather, says this is the system in place:

'That's because prospective NJ handgun owners are required to submit to in-depth local law enforcement background checks and questioning before being granted a handgun permit. LE would have personally queried family members, neighbors, and employers (if any) to make sure the handgun permit seeker isn't a psycho.'

What's wrong with that? Why would all these other civil rights issues be part of the process? Are you saying there are no objective, verifiable records being kept in the state of NJ? Why assume all of these individuals are going to make subjective decisions, and discriminate? Why go there?

I'm not sure how you find my neutral statement on an OP to be a problem to your idea of your rights. Not all states are full of vendettas and political discrimination by law enforcement. Since you describe what is clearly corruption in NJ, that is still the issue for me, but you have not proven your case since you now say these are not your experiences either. Maybe you have a perception of New Jersey that differs from brentspeak, so you should challenge him.

Apparently, it is too emotional right now to have a rational discussion about gun regulation on DU. So thank you for your time and courtesy, and support of Obama. But I'm not going to respond to any more gun things for a while as I have a splitting headache. Have a nice weekend.