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66. They plan to start charging for health care

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:33 PM

Dec 2017

Cost is over $2500 a year for a family.

It was once free but is not going to be free any longer if the politicians have their way!

Hospitals are filled with no empty places.

Need surgery? Wait for up to one year.

And no, I am not kidding.

I've got family over there and what I've been hearing is not so hot and almost all have left as is the history of Ireland it seems.

The era of the Celtic Tiger died several years ago.

I could live there myself if I cared to but the climate is too cold and no, they don't just "love" Americans these days. That sort of ended a long time ago and no, it is not France.

As for Merkel, no, they don't just love her over there. She wants to start up an EU Army and for a NEUTRAL country, this plan is going over like a pile of steaming shyte!

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Millenials: move away if you can. USA is over. We killed it. [View all] kpete Dec 2017 OP

Sounds like Kurt needs to get laid. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #78

This is a bit sensationalistic. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #2

We have to defeat this strain of greed poisoning the country and manifested most in the repug party brush Dec 2017 #81

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This guy doesn't get out much. peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #4

We shouldnt move to Canada. roamer65 Dec 2017 #5

+1,000,000. HughBeaumont Dec 2017 #11

We should have a wave of blue moves to the red states and take over there. We can build it and sadiegirl Dec 2017 #72

Not me. No thanks. roamer65 Dec 2017 #80

I'd welcome you to Missouri. xmas74 Dec 2017 #83

I think he hit the nail edhopper Dec 2017 #6

She may be the only American to readily (successfully) do so hlthe2b Dec 2017 #7

Says the guy with the means to leave... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #8

I'd be gone already if it were possible. I have no way to leave :( OliverQ Dec 2017 #9

Me, too. Glorfindel Dec 2017 #18

Maybe we can convince Canada or places in Europe to OliverQ Dec 2017 #24

Many places really don't like or want Americans! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #70

Shit I wish I could move to California! workinclasszero Dec 2017 #21

The only remotely affordable areas in CA are the red ones. AJT Dec 2017 #38

Well there you go.. workinclasszero Dec 2017 #39

You're locked in the Twilight Zone episode known as America. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #71

Life sentence for most of us. workinclasszero Dec 2017 #76

That is not true CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #42

I should have left years ago, but believed in the American dream - Stupid me!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #29

I don't qualify for Canada. Wrong profession. Wrong age. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #54

Yep, many don't get that the election of Dem again won't change some things. Millions in this RKP5637 Dec 2017 #73

Yep. It will help to elect Dems, but we still get a permanent Alice11111 Dec 2017 #74

The older generation are the ones who vote in the Republicans oberliner Dec 2017 #10

Some boomers did move away DBoon Dec 2017 #53

Yes, their children and grandchildren populated Canada, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #55

Ain't only millenials. I'm almost 70 and intend to move all my sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #12

Yeah I'd leave too tomorrow if I could 47of74 Dec 2017 #16

About the same age, I would be out of here too if I could. Decades ago I thought America RKP5637 Dec 2017 #30

Exactly Alice11111 Dec 2017 #57

How? To where? Who will take you? Please educate me. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #56

I agree. Fuck this country. alarimer Dec 2017 #13

I second this. 47of74 Dec 2017 #15

Sadly, I have to agree. America is being flushed down the toilet. And the GOP plans to kill off RKP5637 Dec 2017 #32

50pc or more brain dead and rapidly spreading. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #58

No Kurt! The USA was killed on 11/08/2016 kydo Dec 2017 #14

I would leave in a second if I could afford to. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #17

I would have left November of last year if I could have. 47of74 Dec 2017 #19

Yes, but this is the fatal blow. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #59

Trump has shown us what America is really made of, millions of hateful and ignorant people. Plus RKP5637 Dec 2017 #33

Boomer here and I'd leave if I could financially afford to do so. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #20

The problem is no one is taking people our age unless Alice11111 Dec 2017 #61

Rich vs Poor bdamomma Dec 2017 #22

Because the middle class jobs have moved to other countries, China etc. Canoe52 Dec 2017 #49

They have sealed it for decades, even when we win. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #62

No one is going to escape the coming economic crash. roamer65 Dec 2017 #23

The Wall street casino will celebrate the looting of medicare and social security workinclasszero Dec 2017 #25

Exactly, we're going to go through the same old shit again, and getting out of it this RKP5637 Dec 2017 #35

I know of several millennials that voted for tRump CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #26

Gullible and naive. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #36

One of them is a married policeman CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #37

I have always thought that people that hate this country should move out. Alea Dec 2017 #27

The people who hate this country Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #34

Talk is cheap CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #40

Ireland is a lovely place to live. The weather isn't great, but the people are charming. Kentonio Dec 2017 #44

Ireland is a nightmare right now CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #48

What in the heavens are you talking about? Kentonio Dec 2017 #52

!!! Offensive comment about Merkel. She has been crunched Alice11111 Dec 2017 #64

They plan to start charging for health care CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #66

The stuff about healthcare can be a bit misleading Kentonio Dec 2017 #69

At least many countries have moral values, like Canada. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #63

The country I was born into doesn't exist anymore DBoon Dec 2017 #51

Very true. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #65

Or maybe tazkcmo Dec 2017 #28

I told my son he was lucky to get a decent public K thru 12 education. To finish college and get out Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #31

Smart move. IMO some really really stressful times are ahead for the US. I also wonder how long this RKP5637 Dec 2017 #41

Where are you going to go? CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #43

More importantly, will they want to return when the pendulum swings the other way? Alea Dec 2017 #60

Misplaced optimism this time. Look at the lifetime judicial Alice11111 Dec 2017 #68

Is a kleptocracy worth defending? moondust Dec 2017 #45

Already gone. Never coming back. shanny Dec 2017 #46

I've been advocating area51 Dec 2017 #47

yeah right... Calculating Dec 2017 #50

No, the billionaires are completely out of control. Initech Dec 2017 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #75

Oh, Bother! MineralMan Dec 2017 #82

Money is ruining democracy! DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #77

Since Nixon the US has been losing momentum for doing good rock Dec 2017 #79

Citizens United killed us. Back in 2010 I wrote the obituary for McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #84

FUCK THAT, running like cowards Skittles Dec 2017 #85