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In reply to the discussion: To the people who keep saying "get over it" about the far-left's sabotage of our nation: [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)And the leaders of the Green movement have that intent. Nader stated explicitly that he would prefer to see Bush win, and Stein stated explicitly that she thought Hillary was worse that Trump. And then there's Susan Sarandon's "revolution" thing.
You're right that many Green voters don't have that intent, they are just gullible imbeciles. You can call them "idealistic" in the same sense that people who join ISIS might be called "idealistic". That might fly as an excuse for 19-year olds who think it's cool to "take down the system, dude!".
But adults are responsible for the predictable consequences of their actions, and, very obviously, for anyone with a prominent voice to be advocating or endorsing the Green Party in an election like the one we had can have one and only one possible effect, which is helping the GOP win.
Take, for example, Chris Hedges, who to my knowledge never actually said he wanted Trump to win. But he made the "no difference" argument over and over and advocated voting for Jill Stein, going so far as to attack Bernie when he endorsed Hillary. He's not an idiot, he knew that the only people who might be affected by his writings an speeches are people on the fence between Dems and Greens. And he also knew that pushing those people towards the Greens made Trump more likely to win. So to give him a moral pass based on lack of explicit "intent" is getting awful close to saying "I knew the gun was loaded and pointed at the victim, and I knew pulling the trigger would kill the victim, but I didn't mean to kill anyone."