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196. Only if Trump resigns at the same time

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:20 PM

Dec 2017

If Pence goes first, Trump picks the new VP (as with Nixon picking Ford after Agnew resigned). When Agnew resigned, the Speaker of the House was a Democrat, so Nixon moved quickly to name a new VP. He settled on Ford as the least controversial (and certainly not the first preference) of his possible choices. At that point, Nixon didn't see himself resigning yet over Watergate. When he did resign, Ford became President, and moved to nominate another Republican for his VP. Ford no doubt enraged the rapidly rightward-radicalizing Republicans by picking the most flamboyant moderate Republican around, NY Governor Nelson Rockefeller, who had no trouble sailing through to confirmation (52 Democratic Senators and 36 Republican Senators voting to confirm). Again, this made sure the Democratic Speaker of the House had no chance of directly succeeding to the presidency. Ford remained the only president that never got there through a presidential election.

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Chatter saying Pence may resign since the Flynn flip [View all] Wwcd Dec 2017 OP

That works for me if Trump appoints Hillary to replace him. LisaM Dec 2017 #1

Here is a shocking thought: Pachamama Dec 2017 #4

If Bush was appointed, he would only be allowed to serve for two years. StevieM Dec 2017 #42

Dont forget Cheney is out there. (Shudder). n/t. Whiskeytide Dec 2017 #49

Fuck that noise BBG Dec 2017 #107

Cheney got his daughter elected last election, that family is still IN our federal gov. Sunlei Dec 2017 #176

Sad to say it is WYOMING DarleenMB Dec 2017 #178

ok, thats the state. Yup, Republicans are like a cancer, once in they never really go away. Sunlei Dec 2017 #180

No, it's not phrased as a 10 year maximum kst Dec 2017 #83

Thanks for pointing that out. I thought that Bush would have to resign under that scenario StevieM Dec 2017 #88

Welcome to DU, kst! calimary Dec 2017 #194

Thanks! kst Dec 2017 #206

There! calimary Dec 2017 #214

Yes--thought of Dan Quayle so often. Lulu KC Dec 2017 #110

I put up a post awhile ago challenging people to rate the following Republicans in order StevieM Dec 2017 #123

I actually think Palin is smarter than Trump. Maybe Quayle over W Pepsidog Dec 2017 #135

A reasonable list. My rankings need not be your rankings!! (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #151

Those are perhaps the four most unintelligent people in the history of American public life. malchickiwick Dec 2017 #195

Hey. Intelligence is a negative as far as litmus tests for the uglican orthodoxy. erronis Dec 2017 #199

Remember the flack he took over being in the National Guard instead of VietNam? argyl Dec 2017 #164

Not to mention he ran against Al Gore and John Kerry who both served in Vietnam karynnj Dec 2017 #184

It was Dan Quayle who did that (I'm pretty sure) FakeNoose Dec 2017 #190

If the Repubs had to maneuver someone into succession, I'd predict Romney. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2017 #177

If the Vice President is opened up.... magicarpet Dec 2017 #182

I think some of them would not be confirmable in the Senate nt karynnj Dec 2017 #186

This sounds plausable. Scruffy1 Dec 2017 #203

What, you think Jared can't take on another job? klook Dec 2017 #9

Lol. Jared's got the dna creds & the top security clearance to be..wait..umm Wwcd Dec 2017 #18

Yep, or Giuliani. (nt) klook Dec 2017 #21

I don't think it can be Ghooliani rpannier Dec 2017 #69

Rush or Alex elehhhhna Dec 2017 #130

ghoul had the contacts with the "retired" FBI and Republican campaign access. Hes in deep with Rs. Sunlei Dec 2017 #181

Bannon! davsand Dec 2017 #26

Sessions hedda_foil Dec 2017 #35

Jeffy! Wwcd Dec 2017 #41

"Choosy Motherfuckers Choose Jeff!" hatrack Dec 2017 #44

... Different Drummer Dec 2017 #46

Sessions is going down with them womanofthehills Dec 2017 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #65

Chris Christie! Chemisse Dec 2017 #73

Well, that made me laugh. LisaM Dec 2017 #40

How about the runner up in the GOP convention that NCjack Dec 2017 #111

Go on, google Santorum. Then laugh, hard. irisblue Dec 2017 #117

Don't need to, but GOPPERs will see him as acceptable. NCjack Dec 2017 #122

Uhhh, in what alternative reality might this happen? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #55

I know Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #208

Next in line? homegirl Dec 2017 #59

it would be Ivanka. TeamPooka Dec 2017 #77

or Howard Dean! GetRidOfThem Dec 2017 #93

Pretty sure he'd rather eat his own Kentucky Fried Testicles with a knife and fork Ken Burch Dec 2017 #144

Never forget Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #2

+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #5

And Pence's brother has ties with Russian money... BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #50

Ed Pence - Cummins Engines CEO, is a big player in RU Wwcd Dec 2017 #95

Fantastic...thanks. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #132

I read it & knowing what we now know, compared to last June, Wwcd Dec 2017 #137

I just told my neighbor about it too. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #150

I've scratched my head for awhile Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #154

Make it be so. So long Spiro, I mean Mike. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #3

Good one... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2017 #79

I do not want ryan still_one Dec 2017 #6

Ryan and McConnell are both dirty. Corgigal Dec 2017 #19

Mueller will nail them too. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #25

Exactly. CentralMass Dec 2017 #54

Hatch would come after Ryan - he is probably clean re the Russians. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #92

Ugh, yeah. That's why Pence has to be Spiro'd before Trump leaves. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #78

Roy Moore? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2017 #148

:-) Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #157

No doubt Flynn can reveal that he never lied to Pence. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #7

Flynn has to have the goods on pense. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #30

no doubt flynn can *testify* against pence, but can he provide hard evidence? unblock Dec 2017 #43

Let it be so.... pbmus Dec 2017 #8

Who is Puesto Loco? marylandblue Dec 2017 #10

Who is PuestoLoco and why should we believe him? beaglelover Dec 2017 #11

Good question Progressive dog Dec 2017 #20

A quick search gives this: lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #28

I followed him colbertforpresident Dec 2017 #70

Sometimes its best just to move on to a post we are comfortable with Wwcd Dec 2017 #109

People are allowed to comment as they wish melman Dec 2017 #120

I believe the defensive part came from others than me Wwcd Dec 2017 #126

I follow him on Twitter & there is no way in hell Puesto Loco is a Russian troll womanofthehills Dec 2017 #165

Who is he? melman Dec 2017 #166

Someone pinch me wryter2000 Dec 2017 #12

Me too. There is enough on Pence that I believe he may indeed want to resign. Wwcd Dec 2017 #119

They will appoint someone like Pompeo just to scare the Democrats into putting Sophia4 Dec 2017 #13

We need to choose the replacement now. delisen Dec 2017 #24

Agreed. But since these cases will take time, we might as well do it by Democratic means, Volaris Dec 2017 #71

We don't get to choose the replacement. EL34x4 Dec 2017 #76

Nonsense. President nominates Congress approves. delisen Dec 2017 #86

the time to be strong was when many of us were begging hc to participate in the wis recount questionseverything Dec 2017 #153

I saw no good political reason to for Clinton to participate in those recounts delisen Dec 2017 #169

her campaign did nothing questionseverything Dec 2017 #202

Her campaign joined the recount-what else did you want them to do? delisen Dec 2017 #204

lil half hearted questionseverything Dec 2017 #205

Pense's resignation tips the whole boat over. They'll all run lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #36

Great we demand Hillary's nomination to vp. Let delisen Dec 2017 #89

Wait.. you do know that TRUMP is the one to make that nomination karynnj Dec 2017 #187

Disagree Me. Dec 2017 #91

I think we actually agree, although as you point out, what happens all depends Sophia4 Dec 2017 #94

But That Was Because Agnew Was Gone Me. Dec 2017 #97

If Trump goes first, it changes everything. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #108

Again We Disagree Me. Dec 2017 #113

We need someone who can get elected in 2020 or cede to someone who Sophia4 Dec 2017 #124

She Doesn't Need To Get Re-Elected Me. Dec 2017 #145

Holding the office -- you mean like LBJ did? Sophia4 Dec 2017 #152

This All May Take PLace Before 2020 Me. Dec 2017 #159

Charisma-the magic potion for those too weak to think. delisen Dec 2017 #171

If Mueller's investigation started to reach both, it would be choreographed as the Agneau/Nixon karynnj Dec 2017 #189

Because he can't run for president when he's in jail uponit7771 Dec 2017 #14

Trump pardons everyone, Trump resign, Pence pardons Trump, Pence resigns, Ryan pardons Pence. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #15

He can run but he can't hide.....many were indicted and jailed after Nixon resigned.. asiliveandbreathe Dec 2017 #16

Reliable source? Hekate Dec 2017 #17

Sounds to me like gossip in Indiana radical noodle Dec 2017 #31

This guy is starting the "Pence is resigning" rumor bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #39

Ok. Don't pay attention to it. Thats fine, I don't believe half the stuff Wwcd Dec 2017 #52

You should tell that to the other people in this thread who don't believe this guy's tweet. lol bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #102

I really don't care if someone doesn't approve of my postings. Wwcd Dec 2017 #105

Your OP is misleading. cwydro Dec 2017 #116

Pointing out misinformation is a good thing for DU as a whole bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #118

At Least 80 Do Me. Dec 2017 #147

It's the kind of thing you wonder Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #209

There is no way Trump and Republican Party should delisen Dec 2017 #22

WORD lunamagica Dec 2017 #67

I know you say this out of your sense of fairness FakeNoose Dec 2017 #192

One obscure tweet does not chatter make... brooklynite Dec 2017 #23

Not even if we and a thousand others retweet it. Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #33

Thank you. cwydro Dec 2017 #74

Maybe we can have a female veep JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #27

Yes. How in the world would they be able to decide PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #57

Bachmann keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #133

So many "qualified". keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #140

Holy crap matt819 Dec 2017 #29

Trump would appoint Ted Cruz to replace Pence. FarCenter Dec 2017 #32

Senate has to approve and last I heard Cruz is still detested among his fellow senators. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #85

Not convinced... HopeAgain Dec 2017 #34

If Flynn is guilty, Pence is guilty Norbert10 Dec 2017 #37

Correct! dae Dec 2017 #104

Agree. Blue_true Dec 2017 #162

Tweeter, please. maxsolomon Dec 2017 #38

We can hope! (But I don't think so.) Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #45

Don't believe it and that twitter person is not reliable OKNancy Dec 2017 #47

I'll let you know when it's more than chatter. Ok? Wwcd Dec 2017 #131

I doubt it. Mother's already measuring the Oval Office for drapes. Vinca Dec 2017 #48

That made me spit out my wine!! MontanaMama Dec 2017 #127

Agnew resigned before Nixon Norbert10 Dec 2017 #51

Wasn't Agnew wrapped up in something totally unrelated to Watergate though? Vinca Dec 2017 #58

Youre right but I dont care what charges bring them down Norbert10 Dec 2017 #66

That was because he was going to go down PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #62

If Pence goes I would be happy to take the job. kacekwl Dec 2017 #53

Please let that maniac leave politics for good. DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #56

Agnew went before Nixon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #60

He might as well hide behind a couch if he thinks resigning Lars39 Dec 2017 #61

Great! DOes the peustolocon work for the FBI? Bonx Dec 2017 #63

He's had this guilty look on his face ever since he was chosen by Trump LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #64

What would Jesus do? Achilleaze Dec 2017 #68

Chatter? One guy on twitter? cwydro Dec 2017 #72

Hey! One guy on Twitter, and this thread here at DU. Iggo Dec 2017 #163

I really chuckled at that Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #210

Too much to hope for. CanonRay Dec 2017 #75

Too late Pence workinclasszero Dec 2017 #80

Don't let it happen. If he is involved, Raven123 Dec 2017 #81

Don't waste the ship. Just the anchor. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #142

If Pence & Trump resign simul, it's a good thing that gets Ryan in as lame duck President. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #82

This is truly rich! Cannnot wait, Pence is even MORE dangerous than the Orange Blunder. marble falls Dec 2017 #84

PLEASE, Dear God, PLEASE Dopers_Greed Dec 2017 #87

I need a "Nattering nabobs of negativism" speech. Historic NY Dec 2017 #90

Yeah, says some doofus on Twitter. progressoid Dec 2017 #96

Pence was Manafort's candidate. Of course he's guilty. crazylikafox Dec 2017 #98

Go read 'Spiro Agnew' on wikipedia. irisblue Dec 2017 #99

According to Puesto Loco melman Dec 2017 #100

Is this just internet chatter? Botany Dec 2017 #101

From your lips skydive forever Dec 2017 #106

From your fingers to His Noodly Appendages... moriah Dec 2017 #112

Lol, yup.a darned good start for now! Wwcd Dec 2017 #121

I will be watching to see where this goes & definately post when more is brought out. Wwcd Dec 2017 #114

Stephanie Miller's wet dream from earlier this week Sedona Dec 2017 #115

Geez that is brilliant! I hadn't heard it before. Wwcd Dec 2017 #129

Cool Me. Dec 2017 #149

I sure hope they get Chris Collins in that net !! pangaia Dec 2017 #125

You can run but you can't hide .lol SummerSnow Dec 2017 #128

Run home to Mother, Mike Wwcd Dec 2017 #134

Will he pray while running? SummerSnow Dec 2017 #136

Lol, oh he's gonna be praying really really hard all the way home Wwcd Dec 2017 #138

Which would put Paul Ryan as our next president, as long as he doesn't get vacuumed up. Kablooie Dec 2017 #139

I want a gif for that! Mueller pushing a vacumn over those traitors Wwcd Dec 2017 #141

So Ryan would then be next-in-line until a new Veep was confirmed. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #143

Anonymous Tweeter writes some stuff... MineralMan Dec 2017 #146

This sounds like total bull crap. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #155

Yep. I'm fine with people expressing their opinions and hopes, but not presenting Hoyt Dec 2017 #158

He will still get his own cell benld74 Dec 2017 #156

On the positive side matt819 Dec 2017 #161

Oh please Oh Please Oh Please jimlup Dec 2017 #160

I hope this is true, not "fake news"... GReedDiamond Dec 2017 #167

I think they're going to have to bring in someone from outside DC jmowreader Dec 2017 #168

silliness A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2017 #170

excellent thread. thanks for posting trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #172

Did you see who was in the big seat in the Senate this morning? n/t malaise Dec 2017 #173

while it's a "nice dream", tweeting to yourself stuff like "JUST IN: Sources are telling me" Sunlei Dec 2017 #174

i'll believe that when it happens. spanone Dec 2017 #175

This, alas Orrex Dec 2017 #201

This goes out to those afraid of dumping Trump because "Pence would be worse." Nitram Dec 2017 #179

I think Pence is worse Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #211

Yes, they have worked hard to protect Pence, and Pense himself has tried to Nitram Dec 2017 #212

Wishful thinking RainCaster Dec 2017 #183

I would imagine Pence resigning ONLY if Mueller has solid cause to charge him and offers that karynnj Dec 2017 #185

President DeVos? Perry? Puzder? Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #188

Sure, sure. LisaL Dec 2017 #191

Shit Sandwich nvme Dec 2017 #193

Only if Trump resigns at the same time DFW Dec 2017 #196

McConnell going down would be nice, but that does nothing to the Order of Succession. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #197

MOMMY! SergeStorms Dec 2017 #198

Barely knew the guy Johnny2X2X Dec 2017 #200

Because twitter rumors turn out true. NT doodsaq Dec 2017 #207

Jebus fucking christ on a pogo stick,look what has happened in the last two weeks. libtodeath Dec 2017 #213

Pelosi for prez! McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #215