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yumitaipan

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10. I can't speak for all InTraders but...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jul 2012

here's why I traded on that contract yesterday:

1. Woke up to the "Batman Massacre" news.
2. Realized that this would almost certainly make the media spend weeks talking about gun control, which would almost certainly spread to the campaigns.
3. Checked Obama and Romney's records on gun control (see Wash Post link below). Realized that, once again, Romney's Massachusetts record is at serious odds with the national GOP. And, realized that Obama has been more pro gun in the last 3 years than Romney was as governor.
4. Checked recent trade prices on the contract and made the decision that I thought Romney would decline from the ~40% odds at that moment, but probably wouldn't go below ~35% this far out from the election.
5. Shorted the contract at ~40, and bought the shares back late last night when it had dropped to ~38.
6. Pocketed 5% one-day profits.

My trading decisions have very little to do with my personal feelings on the "actual odds as of today" that either will get elected. This far out from the election, both candidates will float around 50 and there just isn't as much money to be made as on contracts trading at 1-2% that have a chance of spiking to 20/50/99%. Yesterday, my trades reflected my prediction on the tone of the media over the next few weeks and the spill-over effect I expect that to have on the candidate's campaign messaging and events.

For the record, the trades (and comment board) on the VP contracts probably gives more insight into the feelings of traders vis-a-vis this election. Traders were adjusting their picks all week based on the rumors Romney would announce his VP before going to London. After new of the shooting, I immediately began trading all my VP picks to factor in the ~1 month delay in learning the pick and started looking for VP picks with certain views on gun control. (Does Romney go super pro-guns? Try to avoid gun control? Go middle of the road and try the Obama 'I believe in the 2nd amendment and I believe in people's right to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them' line?)

If you're trying to divine the "real odds" today of Obama victory, the day-to-day movements of the Intrade contract will tell you less than an educated read of public poll cross-tab data. If you're curious to learn why the perceived odds shift, read the comments below the GOP.VP and Pres.Win contracts.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/where-obama-and-romney-stand-on-gun-control/2012/07/20/gJQAwMpNyW_blog.html

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I think we're just seeing an accurate poll. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #1
It's now 59.8 to 38.1! jenmito Jul 2012 #2
That's great!! Why doesn't it add up to 100? smitra Jul 2012 #3
It doesn't have to add up to 100. Intrade is a betting site, but even most polls don't jenmito Jul 2012 #5
Because it's not an either/or choice DavidDvorkin Jul 2012 #6
it means they put the odds of obama winning at by any amount at 61.9 percent arely staircase Jul 2012 #7
OK. Thanks for the explanations. I guess I should read up a bit on how Intrade works. n/t smitra Jul 2012 #9
There may still be a slight chance that Rmoney drops out and another (R) Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #8
This looks about right. Most of the others are pushing a closer race agenda. leveymg Jul 2012 #19
Exactly. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #20
That's an awful big jump. Don't get me wrong, I WANT to believe they're accurate... Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #4
I can't speak for all InTraders but... yumitaipan Jul 2012 #10
Welcome to DU. A very promising first post. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #12
In case it wasn't clear yumitaipan Jul 2012 #14
little more info on Intrade? cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #26
Look at Intrade's electoral map Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #11
Yup... jenmito Jul 2012 #16
A word of warning yumitaipan Jul 2012 #18
And Florida's latest polling is very encouraging. speedoo Jul 2012 #22
It would be nice but he doesn't need any of them (according to Intrade's map) Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #24
Right, could be an early call for Obama election night. speedoo Jul 2012 #25
Finally people are absorbing the idea that Rmoney is a crook flamingdem Jul 2012 #13
Yup. And right now it's 60.0 to 38.0. n/t jenmito Jul 2012 #15
That about matches the polls in California flamingdem Jul 2012 #17
Darn I was thinking of buying shares a couple of days ago when it was still 57% jimlup Jul 2012 #21
Anyone know what the predictive accuracy of Intrade is? speedoo Jul 2012 #23
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