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In reply to the discussion: To all the young people who voted 3rd party or sat out the GE... [View all]LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,286 posts)136. True dat.
GOP eyes post-tax-cut changes to welfare, Medicare and Social Security
High-ranking Republicans are hinting that, after their tax overhaul, the party intends to look at cutting spending on welfare, entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, and other parts of the social safety net.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said recently that he wants Republicans to focus in 2018 on reducing spending on government programs. Last month, President Trump said welfare reform will take place right after taxes, very soon, very shortly after taxes.
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You also have to bring spending under control. And not discretionary spending. That isn't the driver of our debt. The driver of our debt is the structure of Social Security and Medicare for future beneficiaries, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said this week.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/01/gop-eyes-post-tax-cut-changes-to-welfare-medicare-and-social-security/?utm_term=.ab2e660a792e
Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is an earned benefit. We pay into it, like we do a savings account, to have funds available for our retirement. The SS Trust Fund is separate from the rest of the U.S. budget, and does not contribute to the national debt. While it may have some problems, a lot of them could be resolved by eliminating the cap on payroll taxes and let the rich contribute to the fund (although many of them get income via investments and stock options, which are not subject to Social Security withholding). The first step is for the Democrats to stop letting the Repugs keep getting away with framing the discussion, and turning Social Security and Medicare into entitlements.
High-ranking Republicans are hinting that, after their tax overhaul, the party intends to look at cutting spending on welfare, entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, and other parts of the social safety net.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said recently that he wants Republicans to focus in 2018 on reducing spending on government programs. Last month, President Trump said welfare reform will take place right after taxes, very soon, very shortly after taxes.
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You also have to bring spending under control. And not discretionary spending. That isn't the driver of our debt. The driver of our debt is the structure of Social Security and Medicare for future beneficiaries, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said this week.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/01/gop-eyes-post-tax-cut-changes-to-welfare-medicare-and-social-security/?utm_term=.ab2e660a792e
Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is an earned benefit. We pay into it, like we do a savings account, to have funds available for our retirement. The SS Trust Fund is separate from the rest of the U.S. budget, and does not contribute to the national debt. While it may have some problems, a lot of them could be resolved by eliminating the cap on payroll taxes and let the rich contribute to the fund (although many of them get income via investments and stock options, which are not subject to Social Security withholding). The first step is for the Democrats to stop letting the Repugs keep getting away with framing the discussion, and turning Social Security and Medicare into entitlements.
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I hate the "blame Baby Boomer" stuff you see whenever the Republicans do something bad.
Willie Pep
Dec 2017
#1
You can't even get them to stop buying stuff for one Christmas season. They're punched!
sadiegirl
Dec 2017
#52
Not just Republicans, but indies who lean right, indies who lean left but voted for Trump in 2016
aikoaiko
Dec 2017
#142
I'll never understand the 30% of the Hispanice vote for trump...very puzzling to me, as for the...
brush
Dec 2017
#12
You probably need to dissect that. If 13% of black men voted for trump, that means 87%...
brush
Dec 2017
#37
Yeah, that was a disappointment. I have to think there's a lot of voter remorse in that...
brush
Dec 2017
#87
I didn't see that report but I sure hope Muellar gets to the bottom of the whole thing.
brush
Dec 2017
#95
Well, now African American voters know the answer to Trump's question
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Dec 2017
#131
Majority of minorities dont defend those that voted trump. The way white people defend the majority
JI7
Dec 2017
#56
Why the need to defend white trump supporters ? Black people don't defend Cornel West
JI7
Dec 2017
#59
There's PLENTY of blame to go around... ok great, but maybe it's time we moved the fuck on!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#28
I would love to move along also. But, it seems this group is ramping up to do the same in 2020.
MikeydaDog
Dec 2017
#33
Black people DO go after Cornel West Nina Turner. And huge difference is the majority of those group
JI7
Dec 2017
#53
One of the biggest lies Trump's camp told minorities was only undocumented immigrants would get it
IronLionZion
Dec 2017
#62
Well said louis. The idiocy of the falsehood, "there is no difference between Democrats and
still_one
Dec 2017
#5
THIS. This has been their objective for DECADES. This is what they mean by "free stuff."
calimary
Dec 2017
#45
Every damn day I say this to centrists who want the left to appease toward some right wing "normal."
ancianita
Dec 2017
#9
It's why no Dems can put down the FDR wing as divisive, because it's really the old base -- not
ancianita
Dec 2017
#22
Amen. First, unity in the WIN. Unity is not uniformity. We can sort the differences once we win.
ancianita
Dec 2017
#111
good to point out the student loan difference-so many are BURDENED with that lifelong debt.
Sunlei
Dec 2017
#20
and this is just the start . . . debt and budget deficits will soar . . . entitlements will be the
DrDan
Dec 2017
#32
Repugs treat the federal government like a credit card they never intend to pay back
mdbl
Dec 2017
#80
It is that sort of thinking that led to our defeat in 16. You will never end the two party system...
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#119
Follow your conscience. If your conscience allows you to work for the candidate
Sophia4
Dec 2017
#97
If one's conscience doesn't allow one to work for Hillary, maybe one's conscience is the problem.
BzaDem
Dec 2017
#114
Oh, I think they will learn from this. I'm confident we'll get the votes out in 2018 and 2020.
KPN
Dec 2017
#101
Trump did what the GOP always does in that respect... but he won the rustbelt and that gave him his
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#120
Shouldn't that say "I blame old white people, personally" who voted for tRump?
Yonnie3
Dec 2017
#127
Most of them did (63% of white men 55 and older, 55% of white women 55 and older)
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2017
#130