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JI7

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16. we had a Virginia Governor's election where they discussed many issues. same with other elections.

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:13 AM

Dec 2017

there is nobody who is making russia the only issue .

but it is important that it needs to be discussed and dealt with.

and it affects other strategy with their spreading of lies .

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The Russians meddled in our system. We can't regain power by making THAT the argument [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2017 OP

You're right. Much better to pretend it didn't happen. kcr Dec 2017 #1

this is sort of like the argument.. JHan Dec 2017 #3

Yeppers. kcr Dec 2017 #4

Our chances of winning benefit from recognizing it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #6

Yeahhh I still don't get it. JHan Dec 2017 #9

I agree with you that Russia meddled. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #13

I've already answered your questions though. JHan Dec 2017 #14

Out there in real life Dems are talking about domestic issues-the only issues that can gain us votes Ken Burch Dec 2017 #17

Then maybe you're tired hearing it on the news, in that case I'd recommend, JHan Dec 2017 #20

Well goodness, its a good thing you are out there in real life knowing the only issues that can MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #23

I'm not saying "Russia is a distraction" I've said it isn't MORE important Ken Burch Dec 2017 #25

Lol. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #26

LOL! Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #50

Is there some evidence you can cite brer cat Dec 2017 #72

Interesting that you'd state that elections are NOT won or lost based on what's posted on DU. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #76

Since I have never claimed that DU had any power over national elections brer cat Dec 2017 #81

Discouraging anyone from talking about it is a way to blame ONLY Hillary... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #83

+++++++++ JHan Dec 2017 #84

+1 betsuni Dec 2017 #85

"Who benefits from that meme?" Easy! Anyone who wants people to falsely believe... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #86

It's not as though the only options are to totally center it OR ignore it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #5

Anyone can say anything they want. It doesn't become fact. Point out who's running with it. kcr Dec 2017 #7

That's what the endless threads going on about Putin are about. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #15

Politicians are public figures, so not forbidden. Nice try. kcr Dec 2017 #18

Well said. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #24

Threads about Putin are a waste of time. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #28

But of course you're free to insinuate that others on DU have a motive for their Putin threads kcr Dec 2017 #29

Thank you for speaking the truth! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #52

It's not just the "Putin threads". CanSocDem Dec 2017 #57

It's potentially the biggest scandal in Presidential History.. JHan Dec 2017 #2

And it's enough that calls for investigation have been made. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #10

I must be living in some weird universe when I've heard quite a bit of Democrats JHan Dec 2017 #11

It is a campaign issue...huge. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #46

You know who besides you and some others I have seen here want to turn the page? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #49

How about: Trump and Pence and their enablers are traitors for conspiring with an enemy. pnwmom Dec 2017 #8

Did you read my OP? I wasn't talking about that campaign. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #12

Are you thinking that Putin's interference has ended? delisen Dec 2017 #19

It's a thin line between "warning" and saying "Trump is ALL because of Russia". Ken Burch Dec 2017 #22

Who might say Sanders campaign was Kremlin-"black ops" operation?" delisen Dec 2017 #37

Obviously I was using hyperbole there. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #39

So, it's not hyperbole after all, is it? If it's "only a matter of time" (as you say)... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #82

we had a Virginia Governor's election where they discussed many issues. same with other elections. JI7 Dec 2017 #16

Among other things, it should not be used to discredit dissenting Democratic voices- Ken Burch Dec 2017 #21

it does play a role when people try to downplay or deny Russia's involvement in the election JI7 Dec 2017 #27

It's not downplaying Putin to reject the idea that HRC was certain to win if he hadn't been there. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #32

You are always downplaying it just as this thread is doing JI7 Dec 2017 #35

No. I acknowledged that it played a role. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #41

And there it is...I will oppose anyone who primaries a sitting Democrat in the age of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

I suppose youll be opposing Tulsi Gabbards primary opponent. David__77 Dec 2017 #62

I don't like Tulsi...but there should be no primaries this year ...not with Trump so yes I am Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #70

I can understand that position. David__77 Dec 2017 #73

Yeah, we have no power whatsoever... I can live with Tulsi...but not f'ing GOP types. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #74

Another "Democrats have no argument besides (fill in the blank)." betsuni Dec 2017 #30

I AM a Democrat. Don't talk to me like I'm not. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #36

Oh, Ken. betsuni Dec 2017 #54

One of your more transparent ones. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #31

I don't have a game or a hidden agenda. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #33

Thats a bold statement considering facts in evidence. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #34

I have no hidden agenda and you know it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #38

Who was it that thought she should have WAITED about eight our twelve years to write her book? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #53

I'm gonna side with you here, Ken. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #60

### NurseJackie Dec 2017 #78

The biggest conspiracy of criminal families including foreign crime families boston bean Dec 2017 #40

I didn't say it didn't matter to anyone, and I didn't say don't talk about it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #43

Speak for yourself. boston bean Dec 2017 #45

It is dismissive actually. You want 2016 to mean something that it just doesn't...it was an anomoly Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #42

No...I'm talking about the future here. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #44

You must discuss that a candidate sought Russian help to influence an American election. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #48

What we need is for Facebook and Twitter to own up to their place in fake news. alarimer Dec 2017 #51

Why are you are always complaining about Democrats? Cary Dec 2017 #55

yep Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #80

It kind of depends on how much meddling they did Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #56

Yes. It should never be mentioned. We should keep our silence. MineralMan Dec 2017 #58

We can't keep pretending it was all about economics, either. bettyellen Dec 2017 #59

But we can keep pretending that people don't exist if they didn't enjoy the Dem economic success? loyalsister Dec 2017 #61

Yeah, some places the poor are ALSO facing predjudice. bettyellen Dec 2017 #64

Which is why it is all important to consider loyalsister Dec 2017 #66

Dems and Republicans- exactly the same, huh? That's delusional. But thanks for the meme. bettyellen Dec 2017 #87

Thanks foor the misrepresentation of my comment loyalsister Dec 2017 #88

Some people think things never happened because someone else told them for- bettyellen Dec 2017 #89

Yes it is by design loyalsister Dec 2017 #90

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #67

FOR WHICH POLITICAL PARTY?!!?! Thx in advance uponit7771 Dec 2017 #68

sounds like you want to push this very important matter onto the trivial table BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #63

I have not seen a single Democrat state Russian interference should be "THE" argument to get votes. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #65

You'll support your sentiment with objective evidence, yes? LanternWaste Dec 2017 #69

wtf! Are you still stuck on 'meddled'?? triron Dec 2017 #71

Yes we can...by focusing on the issues that VOTERS (not pundits) care about... brooklynite Dec 2017 #75

Russian/Trump takeover is going to be a Big Topic delisen Dec 2017 #77

Which means we need to up our Internet security game. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #79