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JHan

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20. Then maybe you're tired hearing it on the news, in that case I'd recommend,

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:22 AM

Dec 2017

in case you haven't already...focus on what your rep is doing.

Many Americans are concerned about what happened in 2016, and they should be but I've seen no "centering" on Russia by Democrats in the main. Some reps like Maxine Waters have consistently brought attention to the seriousness of it ( from since January this year to her credit) I haven't heard her constituents complain. Schiff and others involved in congressional investigations, understandably talk quite a bit about it. Further, Dems are uniquely challenged by a chaotic administration and have to fight battles on many many fronts. And they need our support.

I must say I find your arguments a tad strange.

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The Russians meddled in our system. We can't regain power by making THAT the argument [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2017 OP

You're right. Much better to pretend it didn't happen. kcr Dec 2017 #1

this is sort of like the argument.. JHan Dec 2017 #3

Yeppers. kcr Dec 2017 #4

Our chances of winning benefit from recognizing it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #6

Yeahhh I still don't get it. JHan Dec 2017 #9

I agree with you that Russia meddled. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #13

I've already answered your questions though. JHan Dec 2017 #14

Out there in real life Dems are talking about domestic issues-the only issues that can gain us votes Ken Burch Dec 2017 #17

Then maybe you're tired hearing it on the news, in that case I'd recommend, JHan Dec 2017 #20

Well goodness, its a good thing you are out there in real life knowing the only issues that can MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #23

I'm not saying "Russia is a distraction" I've said it isn't MORE important Ken Burch Dec 2017 #25

Lol. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #26

LOL! Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #50

Is there some evidence you can cite brer cat Dec 2017 #72

Interesting that you'd state that elections are NOT won or lost based on what's posted on DU. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #76

Since I have never claimed that DU had any power over national elections brer cat Dec 2017 #81

Discouraging anyone from talking about it is a way to blame ONLY Hillary... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #83

+++++++++ JHan Dec 2017 #84

+1 betsuni Dec 2017 #85

"Who benefits from that meme?" Easy! Anyone who wants people to falsely believe... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #86

It's not as though the only options are to totally center it OR ignore it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #5

Anyone can say anything they want. It doesn't become fact. Point out who's running with it. kcr Dec 2017 #7

That's what the endless threads going on about Putin are about. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #15

Politicians are public figures, so not forbidden. Nice try. kcr Dec 2017 #18

Well said. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #24

Threads about Putin are a waste of time. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #28

But of course you're free to insinuate that others on DU have a motive for their Putin threads kcr Dec 2017 #29

Thank you for speaking the truth! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #52

It's not just the "Putin threads". CanSocDem Dec 2017 #57

It's potentially the biggest scandal in Presidential History.. JHan Dec 2017 #2

And it's enough that calls for investigation have been made. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #10

I must be living in some weird universe when I've heard quite a bit of Democrats JHan Dec 2017 #11

It is a campaign issue...huge. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #46

You know who besides you and some others I have seen here want to turn the page? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #49

How about: Trump and Pence and their enablers are traitors for conspiring with an enemy. pnwmom Dec 2017 #8

Did you read my OP? I wasn't talking about that campaign. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #12

Are you thinking that Putin's interference has ended? delisen Dec 2017 #19

It's a thin line between "warning" and saying "Trump is ALL because of Russia". Ken Burch Dec 2017 #22

Who might say Sanders campaign was Kremlin-"black ops" operation?" delisen Dec 2017 #37

Obviously I was using hyperbole there. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #39

So, it's not hyperbole after all, is it? If it's "only a matter of time" (as you say)... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #82

we had a Virginia Governor's election where they discussed many issues. same with other elections. JI7 Dec 2017 #16

Among other things, it should not be used to discredit dissenting Democratic voices- Ken Burch Dec 2017 #21

it does play a role when people try to downplay or deny Russia's involvement in the election JI7 Dec 2017 #27

It's not downplaying Putin to reject the idea that HRC was certain to win if he hadn't been there. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #32

You are always downplaying it just as this thread is doing JI7 Dec 2017 #35

No. I acknowledged that it played a role. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #41

And there it is...I will oppose anyone who primaries a sitting Democrat in the age of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

I suppose youll be opposing Tulsi Gabbards primary opponent. David__77 Dec 2017 #62

I don't like Tulsi...but there should be no primaries this year ...not with Trump so yes I am Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #70

I can understand that position. David__77 Dec 2017 #73

Yeah, we have no power whatsoever... I can live with Tulsi...but not f'ing GOP types. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #74

Another "Democrats have no argument besides (fill in the blank)." betsuni Dec 2017 #30

I AM a Democrat. Don't talk to me like I'm not. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #36

Oh, Ken. betsuni Dec 2017 #54

One of your more transparent ones. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #31

I don't have a game or a hidden agenda. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #33

Thats a bold statement considering facts in evidence. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #34

I have no hidden agenda and you know it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #38

Who was it that thought she should have WAITED about eight our twelve years to write her book? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #53

I'm gonna side with you here, Ken. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #60

### NurseJackie Dec 2017 #78

The biggest conspiracy of criminal families including foreign crime families boston bean Dec 2017 #40

I didn't say it didn't matter to anyone, and I didn't say don't talk about it. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #43

Speak for yourself. boston bean Dec 2017 #45

It is dismissive actually. You want 2016 to mean something that it just doesn't...it was an anomoly Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #42

No...I'm talking about the future here. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #44

You must discuss that a candidate sought Russian help to influence an American election. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #48

What we need is for Facebook and Twitter to own up to their place in fake news. alarimer Dec 2017 #51

Why are you are always complaining about Democrats? Cary Dec 2017 #55

yep Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #80

It kind of depends on how much meddling they did Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #56

Yes. It should never be mentioned. We should keep our silence. MineralMan Dec 2017 #58

We can't keep pretending it was all about economics, either. bettyellen Dec 2017 #59

But we can keep pretending that people don't exist if they didn't enjoy the Dem economic success? loyalsister Dec 2017 #61

Yeah, some places the poor are ALSO facing predjudice. bettyellen Dec 2017 #64

Which is why it is all important to consider loyalsister Dec 2017 #66

Dems and Republicans- exactly the same, huh? That's delusional. But thanks for the meme. bettyellen Dec 2017 #87

Thanks foor the misrepresentation of my comment loyalsister Dec 2017 #88

Some people think things never happened because someone else told them for- bettyellen Dec 2017 #89

Yes it is by design loyalsister Dec 2017 #90

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #67

FOR WHICH POLITICAL PARTY?!!?! Thx in advance uponit7771 Dec 2017 #68

sounds like you want to push this very important matter onto the trivial table BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #63

I have not seen a single Democrat state Russian interference should be "THE" argument to get votes. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #65

You'll support your sentiment with objective evidence, yes? LanternWaste Dec 2017 #69

wtf! Are you still stuck on 'meddled'?? triron Dec 2017 #71

Yes we can...by focusing on the issues that VOTERS (not pundits) care about... brooklynite Dec 2017 #75

Russian/Trump takeover is going to be a Big Topic delisen Dec 2017 #77

Which means we need to up our Internet security game. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #79