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33. Yes, but as we've seen the past 20 years (if not longer)...

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:33 AM

Dec 2017

All the rules and responsibilities are out the window, thanks to Republicans.

So yeah, if Dems abdicated that one particular specific responsibility in the interest of long term political goals, that wouldn't even be in the same stratosphere of what Republicans have done with their power.

Our elected Democratic politicians have to realize that taking the high road has gotten us nowhere and nothing. Every "right thing" they did when we had power was summarily dismantled with the swipe of a pen. We need to stop worrying about being the "better" men/women in terms of DC beltway insiderism and more about being the "better" men/women in terms of creating a lasting, stronger, and better country for everyone. If that means hanging Trump around the necks of Republicans like a fetid, rotting, stinking dead albatross for a year or so, and not letting them get away with dropping him down the memory hole as soon as President Pence is sworn in then I'm more than o.k. with that.

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If Democrats win back the House, they must impeach Donald J Trump. [View all] kentuck Dec 2017 OP

They aren't doing anything until Mueller completes his investigation. onenote Dec 2017 #1

Don't you think Mueller will be finished by election day? kentuck Dec 2017 #2

I would think so. And the political judgment will by guided by what he finds. onenote Dec 2017 #5

I think if they pass the tax bill, Dems will get the house back. DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #3

"Starting impeachment proceedings"? brooklynite Dec 2017 #14

I wasnt sure what he meant DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #17

Let's win back the House first, then trust them to do the right thing. Hoyt Dec 2017 #4

Here's the thing: you're forgetting the Senate. no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #6

I disagree. kentuck Dec 2017 #7

Probably what Republicans were telling themselves in 1998. brooklynite Dec 2017 #15

1998 is irrelevant. Scruffy1 Dec 2017 #16

If he's impeached along a party line vote but is then acquitted onenote Dec 2017 #29

Itll never succeed, but that doesnt mean its a waste of time. unblock Dec 2017 #12

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #21

+1 onetexan Dec 2017 #22

Cross-post: Harder to Impeach no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #25

You don't think getting Republican Senators on the record supporting a law breaker is important? Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #27

I agree kentuck, but it sure would be nice if we won both the Senate and the House still_one Dec 2017 #8

Winning the Senate wouldn't be enough. shanny Dec 2017 #10

I know, but it would prevent the SC from getting another grouch still_one Dec 2017 #11

Good point. shanny Dec 2017 #23

Damn auto auto correct. However it also applies still_one Dec 2017 #24

So he can be "exonerated" by the Senate? shanny Dec 2017 #9

So, acquitting Donald Trump would be okay with you? brooklynite Dec 2017 #13

And Bill's acquittal just made him more popular. That would be a terrible outcome! pnwmom Dec 2017 #18

On "State of the Union" Pelosi said she wouldn't do it LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2017 #19

Read somewhere today Pelosi isnt down with impeachment onecaliberal Dec 2017 #20

If Mueller comes back with proof of crimes then they have a duty to impeach. Kentonio Dec 2017 #26

Zero chance of this happening oberliner Dec 2017 #28

My feeling is..... vi5 Dec 2017 #30

That is a reasonable argument but... kentuck Dec 2017 #31

Yes, but as we've seen the past 20 years (if not longer)... vi5 Dec 2017 #33

my gut tells me Lulu KC Dec 2017 #32