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JHan

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4. Yep, and it was seen in the compromises with the dixiecrats when the New Deal was being formulated.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:50 PM
Dec 2017

But as a concept "identity politics"is nothing new. Conventional wisdom among the anti-identity politics brigade is that this is some kind of new cynical move by modern liberals to pander to groups when Truman himself recognized "identity politics" - and he followed FDR.

this memo from Clark Clifford “THE POLITICS OF 1948” (1947) about the re-election of Truman is revealing. http://personal.ashland.edu/~jmoser1/clifford.htm

"President Truman will be elected if the Administration will successfully concentrate on the traditional Democratic alliance between the South and West. It is inconceivable that any policies initiated by the Truman Administration no matter how "liberal" could so alienate the South in the next year that it would revolt. As always, the South can be considered safely Democratic. And in formulating national policy, it can be safely ignored.

The only pragmatic reason for conciliating the South in normal times is because of its tremendous strength in the Congress. Since the Congress is Republican and the Democratic President has, therefore, no real chance to get his own program approved by it, particularly in an election year, he has no real necessity for “getting along” with the Southern conservatives. He must, however, get along with the Westerners and with labor if he is to be reelected.

The Administration is, for practical purposes, politically free to concentrate on the winning of the West. If the Democrats carry the solid South and also those Western states carried in 1944, they will have 216 of the required 266 electoral votes. And if the Democratic Party is powerful enough to capture the pest, it will almost certainly pick up enough of the doubtful Middlewestern and Eastern states to get 50 more votes (e.g. Missouri's 14 votes). We could lose New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Massachusetts -- all the "big" states -- and still win.

Therefore, political and program planning demands concentration upon the West and its problems, including reclamation, floods, and agriculture. It is the Number One Priority for the 1948 campaign, The Republican Congress has already done its share to give the West to the Administration."


He then goes on to assess the different demographic groups Democrats would have to reach out to: catholics, italians, jews, "negroes" etc etc.

The main reason people have such difficulty with this I believe is that Class has never really been acknowledged in America, because America is not ethnically homogeneous. America's founding was built on a racial caste system so you can't thread race and class separately . It always strikes me that in America , race is discussed the way class is discussed in other countries.

What compounds this problem is that the white working class -specifically white males - are seen as neutral (supposedly neither motivated by race nor gender) and without an identity of their own - and this is wrong, wrong in the present day and historically wrong.

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Yes - racism was at the root of housing discrimination at the beginning ehrnst Dec 2017 #1
Yep, and it was seen in the compromises with the dixiecrats when the New Deal was being formulated. JHan Dec 2017 #4
The biggest reason for white opposition to a more fair economic system JI7 Dec 2017 #2
You have to deal with them AT LEAST simultaneously. Caliman73 Dec 2017 #3
yes, and it's gonna take a lot of deprogramming to get this through.. JHan Dec 2017 #7
The Conservative Moral Hierarchy fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #5
love lakoff.. great link fleabiscuit. thanks. JHan Dec 2017 #6
You're welcome. George Lakoff is more relevant as ever. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #16
Yep... sheshe2 Dec 2017 #9
Thank you sheshe2! nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #17
K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #8
Yep. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #10
.. JHan Dec 2017 #15
"Our entire capitalist system is built on a bedrock of White supremacy." NurseJackie Dec 2017 #11
Solve nothing until we have justice for all. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #12
I haven't heard of Redneck Revolt before. brer cat Dec 2017 #13
They're worth a follow on FB :) JHan Dec 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2017 #18
K&R. Good read, Jhan lunamagica Dec 2017 #19
Great editorial Gothmog Dec 2017 #20
Their site is a great resource as well: JHan Dec 2017 #21
These are not Democrats. They are far far left and they don't represent America Alea Dec 2017 #22
I'm aware of their views JHan Dec 2017 #23
No argument there, I agree. At least they're talking about it. Alea Dec 2017 #24
Yup, I see some benefit there even if I don't agree with them 100% on everything. JHan Dec 2017 #25
Hell of a lot better than the Trumpster Rednecks. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #27
do you decide to just not talk politics with him? JHan Dec 2017 #28
I try to avoid it, but there is always tension, even though he Alice11111 Dec 2017 #29
thanks for sharing. JHan Dec 2017 #30
It is, and it makes me angry at those in my family. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #36
I hope it doesn't lead to a civil war situation. JHan Dec 2017 #37
Truly, it is being dismantled. RW attacks on the press, CNN, NYT, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #38
it just occured to me their approach is fascinating for another reason.. JHan Dec 2017 #26
K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #31
Fascinating JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #32
yep. JHan Dec 2017 #33
By the way, thank you for mentioning Isenberg's "White Trash." betsuni Dec 2017 #34
yeah I can't recommend it enough although.. JHan Dec 2017 #35
Excellent Post Me. Dec 2017 #39
I like these folks when they talk about race relations. The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #40
K&R Jamaal510 Dec 2017 #41
Healthcare as a right should appeal to all of their senses. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #42
If only, their messed up values prevent them seeing the light on that one. JHan Dec 2017 #43
This is one of the most important truths to convey to folks. Racism enables crony capitalism. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #44
thx Garrett, that is a great post. JHan Dec 2017 #45
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