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If we ever need to struggle against tyrannical oppression, it is certainly your individual right to roll over and die, or welcome your new masters. Just submit, if that's all you feel you are capable of, or what is most comfortable and convenient for you.
Personally, I would do whatever necessary to stop them, even if had to throw rocks and sticks. Like my ancestors did. Personally, I'd prefer to use something more effective in order to try to stay free.
And that's my point. Guerrilla tactics use every means available to throw off oppression. And a rifle is usually a more effective means than a stick for helping deter an oppressor.
And as for your apparent insult to American Indians, yes, please, go ahead and point out the obvious to us.
Those incredibly brave people who fought in resistance movements used every resource available to them to fight off their oppressors, and diminishing their efforts as basically valueless and ineffective is extremely lame.
And despite your lack of acknowledgment of this fact, the American Colonists, and their itty bitty muskets, and their bravery, and their sacrifice, had an enormous amount to do with defeating the British and gaining independence from Britain.
It seems possible that you are not well versed in history, otherwise, I doubt that you would be putting forth these half-truths. No one is denying that assistance from other peoples has not contributed to the success of resistance/guerrilla movements. But that assistance was just part of a whole, and in most cases, one would not have succeeded without the other.
And this fact illustrates that your argument here is flat out pure bullshit.
The people of Vietnam repelled the vastly superior armies of the most powerful empire the world has ever seen, and sent them packing. Yes , they had help. But many Vietnamese children, women, men, fought with every means possible in a desperate guerrilla effort to demoralize and defeat the vastly superior armies that invaded heir country in order to take away their land...and they succeeded against all odds. Guerrilla resistance relies not on superior firepower, but on demoralizing the oppressor. The Vietnamese and Afghani have been doing it for centuries, they are expert at it, from long, hard experience.
More recently, the Iraqi people used IED's, and every other means available, to attempt to retain their sovereignty. They had no real army. They will continue to demoralize their temporary conquerors with guerrilla. I could quote examples of guerrilla resistance and adapted tactics ad infinitum, but I believe my point would now be clear to any reasonable, literate person.
WASHINGTON — Iraqi guerrillas have an abundant supply of small arms and explosives that could allow them to maintain their pace of attacks indefinitely, Pentagon and U.S. Central Command intelligence analysts have concluded.
The guerrillas' shoot-and-scoot tactics use up relatively little ammunition while inflicting serious casualties and even deeper psychological damage.
At least 107 U.S. troops have died in guerrilla attacks and other hostile action in Iraq since May 1. And although Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has argued that the attacks are relatively few considering the size of the country, he acknowledges they have succeeded in intimidating Iraqis who might otherwise support the coalition.
Iraq's armed forces disbanded and melted into the countryside in late April during the final stages of the U.S.-led effort to topple Saddam Hussein's regime by force. The Iraqi soldiers took their weapons home with them. Coalition forces took note of an ominous sign at the end of the fighting: hundreds of disabled Iraqi military vehicles along roads and in fields, stripped of any ammunition.
The US is very insular country, and many people in the US are extremely provincial in their worldview. Too much narrowly dispersed information on all pervasive televisions can do that to a population. As a matter of fact, I believe that TV is a far more deadly weapon than all the hunting rifles in the US combined. Probably often plays a big part in contributing to the mindset of the wackos who blow people innocent people up, and who shoot innocent people.
The totally unnatural state of existence we experience in this totally contrived consumer society is going to continue to drive more than a few people insane to the point where they simply can no longer handle the craziness of it all, and lose all reason and hope, and go totally off the rails. Hence, we will continue to get the bombers and shooters. It's not totally the fault of guns. It's primarily the fault of this FUBAR culture that creates the mental illnesses that lead some to become violent lunatics.
Video lobotomized and comfortably numb, until somehow their switch gets flipped.
I suggest, rather than outlawing guns, we regulate them more effectively, and then we outlaw profit producing TV and the insane consumer system of the 1%. People going of the rails and bombing and shooting innocent people is just a a symptom of this disease.
The disease itself is the vast materialistic emptiness of the Corporate created American Consumerist Value/Belief System. It's absolutely enough to drive a person insane.
I've been a yellowdog Democrat since birth. I'm not a "gun nut". I grew up in the country, have lived in the country all my life, I know how to hunt, but am a vegetarian now, and I'm so dead set against taking life that instead of killing insects that invade my home, I prefer to catch them whenever possible, and let them go free outside. My family has had to seriously depend on hunting in the past. Now...I have a deer rifle that I haven't fired since 1984 (and I aim to keep it, too). I detest the NRA. I fully believe that their should be very strict gun control laws.
But I surely don't want some lifetime city person straight out of American Beauty Reality, who wouldn't know a bullfrog from a duck fart, and never produced a single item of their own food for themselves, making it so that I can't hunt for my food if I need to, or have some reasonably effective means, as an individual, of protecting myself and my people if I need to.
I absolutely do not believe that the corporations/government have the right to tell me I cannot own a deer rifle, or a shotgun, that I might effectively use to gain sustenance, or to use to try to defend myself or my people if need be.
Anyone who thinks they have the arbitrary authority to take this most basic natural right away from me can go frack themselves.
If those who want to repeal the 2nd Amendment really want to stop all the insane violence and get some real world cred, they need tosupport and join in the struggle to change this totally unnatural insane corporate controlled consumer system that makes so many millions upon millions of people become mentally ill, instead of simply maybe believing they are going to change it by voting, and then sitting on the couch watching infomercials about how to get rich quick by being a really clever trick for the corporate whores.
Mental Disorders in America
Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. When applied to the 2004 U.S. Census residential population estimate for ages 18 and older, this figure translates to 57.7 million people. Even though mental disorders are widespread in the population, the main burden of illness is concentrated in a much smaller proportion — about 6 percent, or 1 in 17 — who suffer from a serious mental illness.1 In addition, mental disorders are the leading cause of disability in the U.S. and Canada.3 Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time. Nearly half (45 percent) of those with any mental disorder meet criteria for 2 or more disorders, with severity strongly related to comorbidity.
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