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karynnj

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149. So, Goldman Sachs is not a premier Wall Street Firm?

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:12 PM

Dec 2017

In the response to R. B. Garr who spoke of Sanders' attacks on Clinton - I had just read her earlier comment to me that spelled out that that was the attack she meant - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9924312

I have no idea who responded to my response there as it was removed before I saw it.

This is an extremely useless argument. Anyone following can look through the thread and see that - as I said - others brought Clinton and Sanders into it. I note that you are note questioning either Yardwork or Garr who BOTH questioned why people are going after Reid aren't going after Bernie -- bringing Bernie into this. Respond all you want, the thread is here (unless you can get others to self delete, though I doubt it is worth it!)

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MSNBC Host Joy Reid Wrote Numerous Anti-Gay Articles on Her Old Blog [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 OP

There was a thread on this earlier... tenderfoot Dec 2017 #1

Yes. Which is why I referred to it as a critical thinking exercise underthematrix Dec 2017 #5

Greenwald is running with it... tenderfoot Dec 2017 #6

And we know that Greenwald is connected to Putin. yardwork Dec 2017 #9

We're responsible for our own stupidity and our willingness to be manipulated. underthematrix Dec 2017 #10

yes, he is a tool. BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #89

2017 - the year most of us finally were convinced Greenwald is a tool. populistdriven Dec 2017 #105

And the original poster this morning sensibly self-deleted it. George II Dec 2017 #8

Did that person write the blogs? melman Dec 2017 #16

lulz tenderfoot Dec 2017 #18

Does Charlie Crist have the ultimate power of absolution? melman Dec 2017 #20

I guess it's ok if a gay or perceived gay kid gets beat up or bullied because some media hack... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #22

Of course melman Dec 2017 #28

Oh come on ...this is so transparent. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #56

+1 SunSeeker Dec 2017 #99

You seem to be very invested in this. Joy has apologized to Crist and the LGBT community. Tipperary Dec 2017 #70

They are after Joy because of her comments on Sen. Sanders. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #78

I doubt that is the motivation - they are likely parsing everything said by prominent Democrats karynnj Dec 2017 #84

Will you apply these same purity standards to Bernie R B Garr Dec 2017 #90

If you give me a link where either says that, I will say that it is wrong karynnj Dec 2017 #93

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #97

Yep. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #100

Invested? melman Dec 2017 #112

LOL. Think of this post as a critical thinking exercise underthematrix Dec 2017 #2

Joy said something mean about Bernie so Russian trolls go after her. yardwork Dec 2017 #3

That's a very insightful observation. Thanks for sharing it. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #11

Smear campaign by the left being posted on DU? She's apologized.. HipChick Dec 2017 #24

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #32

Yup eom Arazi Dec 2017 #46

You're being played. yardwork Dec 2017 #66

Joy Reid brought up a Bernie Sanders essay from 1972 as evidence of his misogyny! Arazi Dec 2017 #87

Yup. Joy is and has been an attack KPN Dec 2017 #103

+1000. This is why that side lost. The mean spirited hit jobs ecstatic Dec 2017 #12

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #49

### NurseJackie Dec 2017 #73

Yes. +1000 Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #77

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #14

Yes, a gazillion times yes. R B Garr Dec 2017 #23

Nailed it. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #50

+1000 stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #53

That is it...and it makes me feel slightly ill to see folks fall for it. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #61

Bullshit alarimer Dec 2017 #81

How exactly does this point to collusion between my Senator and Putin? karynnj Dec 2017 #86

By your own standards, Bernie and Jane should also R B Garr Dec 2017 #92

It is crazy to claim that Republicans would not speak of HRC giving paid speeches to WS karynnj Dec 2017 #95

HRC did not give speeches to "Wall Street." SunSeeker Dec 2017 #120

that is your opinion karynnj Dec 2017 #121

Would you admit criticizing Hillary for giving paid speeches is sexist? SunSeeker Dec 2017 #122

No, because a MAN likely to be the next President making those same speeches karynnj Dec 2017 #123

Men were never ripped for paid speeches in the past. Funny that. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #124

The source the amount and the timing were different karynnj Dec 2017 #126

How dare a woman get paid more for speeches than some men! SunSeeker Dec 2017 #127

What a strange interpretation of what I wrote karynnj Dec 2017 #129

My interpretation is correct. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #131

Your interpretation of what I wrote is more correct than mine? karynnj Dec 2017 #135

You're wrong, and I wish you'd put this same amount of energy criticizing Trump. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #136

I do -- and in fighting for action on combatting climate change -- and not just online karynnj Dec 2017 #137

You're the one who brought up Clinton and Sanders replying to an OP about Joy Reid. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #138

I responded to others that claimed that Reid was being attacked because she had criticized Sanders karynnj Dec 2017 #140

You were replying to the OP, which doesn't mention anything about Sanders (or Clinton). nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #141

Look again - the sub thread starts with my response to Yardwork, speaking of Putin and Sanders. karynnj Dec 2017 #142

Yardwork did not bring up Clinton. You did. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #143

It is not a smear to say that she gave speeches to WS -- she did! Goldman Sachs is part of WS! karynnj Dec 2017 #147

No, she didn't. Why not say GS instead of WS? Why bring up Hillary AT ALL? SunSeeker Dec 2017 #148

So, Goldman Sachs is not a premier Wall Street Firm? karynnj Dec 2017 #149

Yardwork never brought up Hillary. Your Hillary smear is gratuitous, pointless. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #152

Joy Reid apologized to Charlie Crist, and he graciously and unequivocally accepted the apology. George II Dec 2017 #101

True, and that is very gracious of him and appropriate on her part, karynnj Dec 2017 #104

get over it Bernie is out of the picture. stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #163

Bernie would not be on my list if I were forced to list the three people I think would karynnj Dec 2017 #164

Yep. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #102

Everytime I respond this post gets pulled MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #4

No she didn't. George II Dec 2017 #7

Yeah huh. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #13

Oh yes she did melman Dec 2017 #15

Then why did she apologize???? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #17

You're overplaying this.... Adrahil Dec 2017 #33

More to the point, why didn't you run her apology? grantcart Dec 2017 #108

No dead horses were harmed during the making of this thread. oasis Dec 2017 #19

Interesting replies to this thread Lordquinton Dec 2017 #21

Breitbart clickbait that has no place here. jcmaine72 Dec 2017 #25

I agree. If we ever see it we should alert! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #26

Crist accepted her sincere apology emulatorloo Dec 2017 #27

Why would I delete or correct? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #30

Because the spin you've chosen is unbecoming of a DUer. nt greyl Dec 2017 #43

It's not spin. Not "fake news." Those are the words... SMC22307 Dec 2017 #44

The words aren't in dispute. nt greyl Dec 2017 #47

IKR? Where did this concept of being wrong on the internet come from? kcr Dec 2017 #48

To be fair, you should edit OP to include her sincere apology and Crist's acceptance of it emulatorloo Dec 2017 #83

Sorry but this is literally not even a blip on the radar with the shit storm that is Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #29

See how this works? peggysue2 Dec 2017 #94

people can change MFM008 Dec 2017 #31

Pointing GOP hipocracy is apropos. Lint Head Dec 2017 #34

I see the "attack minorities" playbook is still in effect. LexVegas Dec 2017 #35

Yes, Joy Reid attacked a minority group melman Dec 2017 #36

Her sin was to be perceived as attacking Sen. Sanders...and we know this...I have to say. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #63

I have no idea what this post is about melman Dec 2017 #110

Really...you do know the source of this? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #133

No melman Dec 2017 #145

Mediate dug it up and why do you think they did that? Joy actually criticized Sen. Sanders... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #154

This has nothing to do with any of that melman Dec 2017 #158

Yes...some years ago. If you want to help the right and green riffraff get rid of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #162

''I shudder to think what would happen if shit I wrote years ago surfaced.'' melman Dec 2017 #174

I just wanted 'people to keep their sexuality in the bedroom (being gay)...don't flaunt it Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #179

Use it to both validate and advance a narrative. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #76

Get a kick? melman Dec 2017 #111

Ha! Excellent response. I wish I could rec your post. Tipperary Dec 2017 #125

Which minority? AA or LGBTQ? progressoid Dec 2017 #37

Why is it NOT okay that Joy Reid has EVOLVED TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #38

She was not anti-gay, but was calling out a GOPer, R B Garr Dec 2017 #39

Thx for pointing out the troll angle - TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #41

She flip-flopped on Bernie, too. And Hillary. SMC22307 Dec 2017 #45

I like Joy and know this is all about criticizing Sen. Sanders. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #57

She didnt flip flop on Hillary. Youre just trying to R B Garr Dec 2017 #85

yup lots of trolling going on. JHan Dec 2017 #51

She said numerous anti-Hillary things, too Nevernose Dec 2017 #40

So this means we can finally put to rest that Bernie's a misogynist based on a 1972 college essay Arazi Dec 2017 #117

Oh no, no, no.... that one will always be dredged up and drug around... Raster Dec 2017 #130

You're trying real hard with this one but I get your motivation. JHan Dec 2017 #42

When you read thread like this...I am more and more convinced that Sen. Sanders should not run in 20 Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #64

the current double teaming is expected. JHan Dec 2017 #71

so transparent. But self-defeating. It doesn't make anyone like Sen. Sanders more. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #75

There's a term called "Greenwalding" - JHan Dec 2017 #82

Yes! peggysue2 Dec 2017 #98

agreed. JHan Dec 2017 #113

I absolutely agree. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #134

Yes...he is a Putin dupe...the interesting thing is if he is in Putin's pocket, and I think he is... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #155

Senator Sanders has criticized Democrats. JHan Dec 2017 #160

And some like this guy? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #161

1000% agreed. Can't even imagine the un-healable division a run would cause BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #91

I don't see how we can survive another GOP win...I really don't. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #156

They can come back when the right has divested from all of their hate laced talking heads. Afromania Dec 2017 #52

#fakenews. stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #54

I will discount this because Greenwald is involved and the sin of Ms. Reid is she Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #55

im just not forwarding any of this samnsara Dec 2017 #58

more fratricide IADEMO2004 Dec 2017 #59

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #60

I cant imagine what backlash id get for the shit I wrote ten years ago MrScorpio Dec 2017 #62

She is being double teamed. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #65

Yep. This is the old gay vs. African American trick, too. yardwork Dec 2017 #67

By those that care for neither. nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #69

Exactly right +1000 Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #79

Well.. that's another 5 minutes of reading I won't get back. Amimnoch Dec 2017 #68

There you go being reasonable. yardwork Dec 2017 #72

It is not a "crackpot conspiracy theory" obamanut2012 Dec 2017 #74

She said something "mean" in their eyes about Sen. Sanders. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #80

Breathlessly posting anti Joy articles as fast as they come out...ignores Trump BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #88

Joy said something mean about Bernie. Blue_true Dec 2017 #116

painfully obvious..and incredibly transparent BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #119

This doesn't diminish my love for Joy Reid. forgotmylogin Dec 2017 #96

This hurts me. saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #106

If true, then maybe she has evolved? Cary Dec 2017 #109

Nom nom nom maxsolomon Dec 2017 #107

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #114

This thread proves the idea... makokun Dec 2017 #115

BOOMMM, right on. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #118

You are so right. nt Sienna86 Dec 2017 #128

Tell that to the children who just lost their health insurance. yardwork Dec 2017 #144

Yeah... who needs beliefs anyway as long as we get stuff... makokun Dec 2017 #166

dismissing affordable health insurance for children as "getting stuff" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #167

So basically the ends justify the means makokun Dec 2017 #168

No, it's nothing like that at all. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #171

You're conflating health insurance here with the topic of this thread makokun Dec 2017 #172

No, I'm not saying it can be ignored. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #175

Its not bullshit makokun Dec 2017 #176

You said providing health insurance for children is "getting stuff" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #178

Bullshit, she apologized he accepted fuck that "they're the same" shit uponit7771 Dec 2017 #150

You are missing the point makokun Dec 2017 #165

Is this our Red Guard period. Must we denounce everyone! delisen Dec 2017 #132

So the point of all of this is to... moda253 Dec 2017 #139

I love her. Sugarcoated Dec 2017 #146

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #151

Funny how it's "distracting" and "unproductive" vi5 Dec 2017 #153

This makokun Dec 2017 #169

I Do Not See The Problem erpowers Dec 2017 #157

Are you fucking kidding me? Is this the young conservative Calab Ecarma? ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #159

Well, golly gee. Guess we better flush another liberal spokesman down the toilet. Paladin Dec 2017 #170

Are there not dozens of other people who could fill the void? makokun Dec 2017 #173

Get back to me after Roy Moore isn't a US senator, and trump isn't president. Paladin Dec 2017 #177

Fake news. Joe941 Dec 2017 #180