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Iggy

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9. Agreed to a point

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:59 PM

Jul 2012

yes, our mental health care is severely lacking in this area. we do need to do more.

My point is we're not going to stop people from "snapping". but what we (law enforcement)
can do is track/monitor people who are losing it, and prevent them from loading up their
cars with 4-5 weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammo, tear gas grenades, etc, driving to
a public place and committing mass murder.

I believe this is doable-- problem is law enforcement is not even trying to make an effort.

the police/bomb squads, etc. are very good at being REactive to a problem; they are not very
good at being proactive in stopping it in the first place. this is unacceptable

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Maybe if he had just been able to get a satisfying job [View all] Duer 157099 Jul 2012 OP

NOPE.. I think eventually we'll Iggy Jul 2012 #1

From everything I've read about him, attention whore doesn't come to mind Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #3

Agreed to a point Iggy Jul 2012 #9

Law Enforcement is not the solution. bvar22 Jul 2012 #44

Agree ananda Jul 2012 #45

I think you're on to something Corgigal Jul 2012 #2

Then he would have been a crazy, sorry creep with a job. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #54

"Do you want fries with that order?" HopeHoops Jul 2012 #4

And therein lies the crux of the matter Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #5

Well, there are always the later years to look forward to - "Welcome to WalMart." HopeHoops Jul 2012 #8

BULLSHIT. If graduates can't mentally handle taking a crappy job post-college, Bicoastal Jul 2012 #11

From what I read, he wasn't even ABLE to get a job at McDonalds! Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #13

Yes, we're fucked up. But this massacre is not as simple as a class inequality or economy thing... Bicoastal Jul 2012 #19

I agree Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #23

The weird thing is... Bicoastal Jul 2012 #28

I don't know too many PhD students who aren't employed malaise Jul 2012 #31

Well, if you look at other places with terrorist problems you might find some similarities. Edweird Jul 2012 #6

NO. Bicoastal Jul 2012 #7

It's a lot of things. Gregorian Jul 2012 #10

Hindsight is always 20-20..If Hitler had been SoCalDem Jul 2012 #12

So if I ever get a time machine Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #15

No, but would you PLEASE buy some Hitler landscapes SoCalDem Jul 2012 #37

I think I would rather give his father a vasectomy Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #46

He was studying for his PhD. and had enough money to buy Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #14

Money isn't always a substitute for a satisfying job/career Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #16

but he was in school and studying for a PhD. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #18

The picture I got was that after college Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #20

I can respect that Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #26

or he was severely mentally ill dionysus Jul 2012 #17

which brings up the question of whether he was medicated Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #21

which is why the violent people demanding his death are in the wrong gregoire Jul 2012 #29

That is a bit simplistic. Skidmore Jul 2012 #22

Maybe. Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #25

Hfojvt explained the 'cause' best Mimosa Jul 2012 #24

Yes, that is a great post Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #27

That is a great post. dkf Jul 2012 #35

Doubt it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #30

People don;t do something like this becaise of a bad job obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #32

I doubt it. Employment didn't help my mom. She was still looney tunes. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #33

Paranoid schizophrenia doesn't work that way. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #34

Is there any evidence. dkf Jul 2012 #36

Nope. Just my armchair diagnosis. Time will tell. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #40

Amen. Folks just don't get it.... RagAss Jul 2012 #48

he would have gotten a great job HipChick Jul 2012 #38

My first thought as well. But we won't know his story until the trial. freshwest Jul 2012 #41

I think it added to his cynicism flamingdem Jul 2012 #39

he was a student in a PhD program. barbtries Jul 2012 #42

It doesn't seem like he needed one really. bluedigger Jul 2012 #43

I think it had less to do with employment than with purpose. Sirveri Jul 2012 #47

I doubt that. soccer1 Jul 2012 #49

Lots and lots and LOTS of people don't have satisfying jobs. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #50

I retired from a non- satisfying jobs after 40 years. Glad I didn't have a gun. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #55

Jesus Christ, if this had to do with not being able to get a good job there'd be a mass shooting Lex Jul 2012 #51

CORRECT Skittles Jul 2012 #52

No one knows yet what drove him to this. Why not let it play out and then we'll all see? WillowTree Jul 2012 #53

He was a graduate student Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #56

IMHO... sendero Jul 2012 #57

That sort of mental illness can't be fixed with a job Marrah_G Jul 2012 #58

And maybe.... soccer1 Jul 2012 #59

I don't think our society is good at identifying people at fairly obvious trouble points and if we stevenleser Jul 2012 #60

People have a right to not hire someone who creeps them out gollygee Jul 2012 #61