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In reply to the discussion: Why is it always young men? Is testosterone poisoning a problem? [View all]Mimosa
(9,131 posts)91. Everybody's discussed it. Each time a mass killing happens.
Actually if you want to delve deeper, you might try to figure out what drives men to warfare which is 'authorised and approved' killing. That governments can send men (and now women) to war has been an organising principle of nation states.
Warfare is what men do and how they grab the stuff for the rest of their tribe.
Mass murders are not unique to the United States. One happened in China not so long ago. Here is a link to a particularly insightful article:
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/2009/04/08/203464/Loss-revenge.htm
Excerpt:
Mass murder is nothing new, and the invention of repeating guns only made it easier. But even experts who study the phenomenon have been stunned by the recent rash seven in the past month, three in the past week alone. The string of shootings in the U.S. in the last month has claimed the lives of at least 53 people.
Boy, this is a lot, said Safarik, now a partner with Forensic Behavioral Services International.
Criminologist Jack Levin was not surprised to learn that the man who shot up a Binghamton, New York, immigrant center on Friday had recently been laid off from his job at a vacuum cleaner factory. What puzzled him at first was why Jiverly Wong chose his target.
If it was only the job loss, why didn't he go back to the work site and kill his manager and his co-workers? the Northeastern University professor asked himself. Because that's what we're used to seeing when someone is set off by a termination at work. But he didn't do that.
Then he learned that the 41-year-old Wong an ethnic Chinese man raised in Vietnam had taken English classes at the American Civic Association, and that he blamed his inability to find and keep work, in part, on his poor language skills. That's when the massacre began to make sense or as much sense as any such tragedy can.
Wong's personal failures meant that he had lost the respect in the eyes of others of the immigrant community, said Levin, co-author of the book Extreme Killing: Understanding Serial and Mass Murder.
Boy, this is a lot, said Safarik, now a partner with Forensic Behavioral Services International.
Criminologist Jack Levin was not surprised to learn that the man who shot up a Binghamton, New York, immigrant center on Friday had recently been laid off from his job at a vacuum cleaner factory. What puzzled him at first was why Jiverly Wong chose his target.
If it was only the job loss, why didn't he go back to the work site and kill his manager and his co-workers? the Northeastern University professor asked himself. Because that's what we're used to seeing when someone is set off by a termination at work. But he didn't do that.
Then he learned that the 41-year-old Wong an ethnic Chinese man raised in Vietnam had taken English classes at the American Civic Association, and that he blamed his inability to find and keep work, in part, on his poor language skills. That's when the massacre began to make sense or as much sense as any such tragedy can.
Wong's personal failures meant that he had lost the respect in the eyes of others of the immigrant community, said Levin, co-author of the book Extreme Killing: Understanding Serial and Mass Murder.
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exactly. too many boys ad men do not behave in a violent world. there is a reason. i agree. nt.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#5
women have been taught to internalize... turn their issues within. men have been taught to explode
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#4
hands down there are more girl fights in my sons high school, now a days, than there are
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#15
you are talking violence due to testosterone. now it is an issue about guns? males are hands down
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#36
i agree with your post. and the two causes you suggest and adding a major cause imo. parenting.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#42
Actually, this deserves some serious discussion, imo. The fact that
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#10
I think, as was the case with Loughner, this guy was probably suffering from schizophrenia
GarroHorus
Jul 2012
#13
and if i remember correctly, it hits males more than females. but, i was thinking about this and
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#19
good point. and it is mostly young white men. if it was about testosterone, then it would not
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#21
again, all that i put on societal conditioning. males are not more visually stimulated science have
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#38
then why would it just be the young white male with too much. statisticall, this behavior is almost
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#23
i guess then you are suggesting genetically it is only white male with this gene? nt
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#39
Drive by shootings in the inner city don't distinguish between race or gender
aint_no_life_nowhere
Jul 2012
#58
Oh, please, males have testosterone in every modern society in the world. The cause is access
CTyankee
Jul 2012
#32
Yes, I know you didn't say being male was the cause. My point is testosterone, plus being
CTyankee
Jul 2012
#69
There could also be a law expanding the rights of people to vote for reasonable gun control
CTyankee
Jul 2012
#104
it doesnt make sense, not even a little when the vast majority of men do not resort to murder
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#54
because angry rightwing extremists are MALES who listen to hate radio 24/7/365
graham4anything
Jul 2012
#55