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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. I disagree, and I am a liberal NYC democrat
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jul 2012

I am as anyone who knows me knows, a liberal democrat from the great NYC

Going against the NRA is not a rightwing thingy, now is it?So calling me one is IMHO silly.

IMHO Guns don't protect you, there isn't one bonafide example of a gun saving anyone from any of these events.

Oklahoma City? We will never know the true story as Timmy died.

However, we do know the result of what a gun did regarding the issue of a woman's right to privacy in Kansas and their constitutional rights, now don't we?

And we do know what the NRA backed Zimmerman did to Trey Martin in Florida.
etc,etc,etc.

thanks to legal ownership of guns.
Showing the lie that "criminals will always be able to get an illegal gun" and guns are needed to protect from those criminals with illegal guns. These guns are legal (same with the evil ones from Columbine).

And saying that other methods would have been used, well, security now is prepared for those events like they were not back when McVeigh did what he did.

By the way, I am proud never to have owned, or fired a gun, and never will own one.
(and when I was a kid in summer camp as NYC kids without immediate access to lakes and swimming did, when the Y camp offered rifle shooting, and a note was sent to the parents to sign their consent, they signed NO consent, that it was not the correct way to have fun.

And though my Grandfather's brother committed suicide with a gun instead of leaving as the Nazi's were pounding on his door in Austria, because he was a Jew, not one person in my family ever believed the lies that were spewed if only they were armed and none of them had a gun including the generations that followed (kids and grandkids)
From a NY/NJ liberal democrat. That is MY opinion.
And my viewpoint on cameras has as they say evolved, because we are not in the 1960s/1970s anymore, this is a different time and place.

And speaking of guns, I would like Daryl Isaa to work a timeline for the walking of the guns this person used.
(this said sarcastically).
While his head was buried in his no-scandal he is investigating, 12 people died and scores were injured, on Daryl Isaa's watch.

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It sounds like he may have tried to do both. He may have thought the brewens Jul 2012 #1
Just think if he tried to use the explosives as the prime weapon. Where would it have had impact? dkf Jul 2012 #2
But there's a small flaw in that theory -- he left the door unlocked rocktivity Jul 2012 #7
Yeah, I heard that after my post. That girl was lucky she didn't open the door. n/t brewens Jul 2012 #17
Yes I am, my constitutional rights are being violated by terrorists/extremists/anarchists graham4anything Jul 2012 #3
Dude permatex Jul 2012 #10
I disagree, and I am a liberal NYC democrat graham4anything Jul 2012 #12
Ask and you shall recieve. beevul Jul 2012 #18
except Rachel & Stephanie are not here today graham4anything Jul 2012 #19
My but those goalposts must get heavy. beevul Jul 2012 #22
Let's just shitcan the whole damn Bill of Rights while we're about it... Higgs boson Jul 2012 #21
wrong graham4anything Jul 2012 #23
It doesn't mention computers either. Higgs boson Jul 2012 #32
What about Veronica Moser's right to life? graham4anything Jul 2012 #35
Exactly. LAGC Jul 2012 #4
Oh stop being silly. Next you'll be posting those Soviet Union myths. Zalatix Jul 2012 #25
Or not. moondust Jul 2012 #5
Well when we see his apartment we may find out what other things he considered. dkf Jul 2012 #6
I think you're on to something. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #14
That's generally how they do it in other places. I'm surprised we haven't been seeing more of that. Edweird Jul 2012 #8
You're more likely to die texting while driving than you are to get shot randomly. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9
NY and NJ have banned texting, and rightfully so graham4anything Jul 2012 #13
PA banned texting, but it doesn't have any teeth. MD bans all handheld phone use. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #28
You're more likely to die from lightning HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #15
Nonsense. 99Forever Jul 2012 #31
Neither do I. Actually, I don't text at all. So yeah, that does skew the odds a bit, eh? HopeHoops Jul 2012 #34
5000 pounds of ammonium nitrate would he harder to get and use than Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #11
Yes, probably in his case. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #16
Anecdotal. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #20
OBJECTION! Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #24
You all have blood on your hands. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #26
I c what u did there pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #27
The solution should take us in the direction of a more open society rucky Jul 2012 #29
Well... 99Forever Jul 2012 #30
But he did. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #33
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