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In reply to the discussion: If Holmes didn't have guns I bet he would have done a Tim Mcveigh. [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I am as anyone who knows me knows, a liberal democrat from the great NYC
Going against the NRA is not a rightwing thingy, now is it?So calling me one is IMHO silly.
IMHO Guns don't protect you, there isn't one bonafide example of a gun saving anyone from any of these events.
Oklahoma City? We will never know the true story as Timmy died.
However, we do know the result of what a gun did regarding the issue of a woman's right to privacy in Kansas and their constitutional rights, now don't we?
And we do know what the NRA backed Zimmerman did to Trey Martin in Florida.
etc,etc,etc.
thanks to legal ownership of guns.
Showing the lie that "criminals will always be able to get an illegal gun" and guns are needed to protect from those criminals with illegal guns. These guns are legal (same with the evil ones from Columbine).
And saying that other methods would have been used, well, security now is prepared for those events like they were not back when McVeigh did what he did.
By the way, I am proud never to have owned, or fired a gun, and never will own one.
(and when I was a kid in summer camp as NYC kids without immediate access to lakes and swimming did, when the Y camp offered rifle shooting, and a note was sent to the parents to sign their consent, they signed NO consent, that it was not the correct way to have fun.
And though my Grandfather's brother committed suicide with a gun instead of leaving as the Nazi's were pounding on his door in Austria, because he was a Jew, not one person in my family ever believed the lies that were spewed if only they were armed and none of them had a gun including the generations that followed (kids and grandkids)
From a NY/NJ liberal democrat. That is MY opinion.
And my viewpoint on cameras has as they say evolved, because we are not in the 1960s/1970s anymore, this is a different time and place.
And speaking of guns, I would like Daryl Isaa to work a timeline for the walking of the guns this person used.
(this said sarcastically).
While his head was buried in his no-scandal he is investigating, 12 people died and scores were injured, on Daryl Isaa's watch.