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The Velveteen Ocelot

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30. Doubt it.

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:40 PM

Jul 2012

The world is full of people with an unsatisfying job or no job, and they don't go out and shoot a bunch of people. This guy was very disturbed in some way - we will eventually find out more about his mental condition - and while his problems with employment and his recent troubles in school might have been the immediate triggering circumstance, the underlying cause of his rampage is a whole lot deeper. Even if he'd had a good job, something would have set him off eventually. Dude's fucked up.

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Maybe if he had just been able to get a satisfying job [View all] Duer 157099 Jul 2012 OP

NOPE.. I think eventually we'll Iggy Jul 2012 #1

From everything I've read about him, attention whore doesn't come to mind Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #3

Agreed to a point Iggy Jul 2012 #9

Law Enforcement is not the solution. bvar22 Jul 2012 #44

Agree ananda Jul 2012 #45

I think you're on to something Corgigal Jul 2012 #2

Then he would have been a crazy, sorry creep with a job. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #54

"Do you want fries with that order?" HopeHoops Jul 2012 #4

And therein lies the crux of the matter Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #5

Well, there are always the later years to look forward to - "Welcome to WalMart." HopeHoops Jul 2012 #8

BULLSHIT. If graduates can't mentally handle taking a crappy job post-college, Bicoastal Jul 2012 #11

From what I read, he wasn't even ABLE to get a job at McDonalds! Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #13

Yes, we're fucked up. But this massacre is not as simple as a class inequality or economy thing... Bicoastal Jul 2012 #19

I agree Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #23

The weird thing is... Bicoastal Jul 2012 #28

I don't know too many PhD students who aren't employed malaise Jul 2012 #31

Well, if you look at other places with terrorist problems you might find some similarities. Edweird Jul 2012 #6

NO. Bicoastal Jul 2012 #7

It's a lot of things. Gregorian Jul 2012 #10

Hindsight is always 20-20..If Hitler had been SoCalDem Jul 2012 #12

So if I ever get a time machine Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #15

No, but would you PLEASE buy some Hitler landscapes SoCalDem Jul 2012 #37

I think I would rather give his father a vasectomy Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #46

He was studying for his PhD. and had enough money to buy Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #14

Money isn't always a substitute for a satisfying job/career Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #16

but he was in school and studying for a PhD. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #18

The picture I got was that after college Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #20

I can respect that Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #26

or he was severely mentally ill dionysus Jul 2012 #17

which brings up the question of whether he was medicated Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #21

which is why the violent people demanding his death are in the wrong gregoire Jul 2012 #29

That is a bit simplistic. Skidmore Jul 2012 #22

Maybe. Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #25

Hfojvt explained the 'cause' best Mimosa Jul 2012 #24

Yes, that is a great post Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #27

That is a great post. dkf Jul 2012 #35

Doubt it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #30

People don;t do something like this becaise of a bad job obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #32

I doubt it. Employment didn't help my mom. She was still looney tunes. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #33

Paranoid schizophrenia doesn't work that way. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #34

Is there any evidence. dkf Jul 2012 #36

Nope. Just my armchair diagnosis. Time will tell. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #40

Amen. Folks just don't get it.... RagAss Jul 2012 #48

he would have gotten a great job HipChick Jul 2012 #38

My first thought as well. But we won't know his story until the trial. freshwest Jul 2012 #41

I think it added to his cynicism flamingdem Jul 2012 #39

he was a student in a PhD program. barbtries Jul 2012 #42

It doesn't seem like he needed one really. bluedigger Jul 2012 #43

I think it had less to do with employment than with purpose. Sirveri Jul 2012 #47

I doubt that. soccer1 Jul 2012 #49

Lots and lots and LOTS of people don't have satisfying jobs. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #50

I retired from a non- satisfying jobs after 40 years. Glad I didn't have a gun. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #55

Jesus Christ, if this had to do with not being able to get a good job there'd be a mass shooting Lex Jul 2012 #51

CORRECT Skittles Jul 2012 #52

No one knows yet what drove him to this. Why not let it play out and then we'll all see? WillowTree Jul 2012 #53

He was a graduate student Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #56

IMHO... sendero Jul 2012 #57

That sort of mental illness can't be fixed with a job Marrah_G Jul 2012 #58

And maybe.... soccer1 Jul 2012 #59

I don't think our society is good at identifying people at fairly obvious trouble points and if we stevenleser Jul 2012 #60

People have a right to not hire someone who creeps them out gollygee Jul 2012 #61