My thoughts on Al Franken

[RandomAccess]

8. I totally agree, Shred

With the Roy Moore allegations, which are far worse of course, they were 100% credible because of the THIRTY people who were interviewed by the journalists (NYT I think ).

Maybe it's just me, because I've seen very, very little about Franken's accusers and their allegations except the first one and there were some "issues" with her and her story.

I think it's telling that Franken IMMEDIATELY called for a Senate Ethics investigation when this first came up, and apologized as well for what he intimated was inadvertent and later asserted definitely unintended. I thought at the time, and still do, that he was innocent but knew it would be futile to fight it on that basis, and that the Ethics Committee would get to the bottom of things. His accuser, meanwhile, said an investigation wasn't necessary.

I have always said we must believe the women ALWAYS because so few women come forward with false accusations (no more than for false reports of other crimes). However, the current climate -- at least for the moment -- is so different and it's safer for women to come forward with such allegations. And thank heaven for that. But unfortunately, that makes it safe for the claim of sexual harassment to be weaponized.

When the first allegation surfaced, I chastised people here for doubting her. But then I read some of the reasons (aside from the inappropriate slut shaming) and began to have doubts. Then when I heard Roger Stone knew about it in advance (https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9851288 ) and read other things, I began to wonder.

Some of the other things which helped me have doubts:


Wait what??? They met for weeks to try and find a way to hurt Franken????
3rd paragraph in. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029865102
http://polipace.com/2017/11/17/leeann-tweeden-says-accepts-al-frankens-apology-claims-planned-attacks/
"Also, KABC in Los Angeles is upset about various reports coming out that they had met for weeks to discuss ways to “hurt” Senator Al Franken, the Democratic Represenative from Minnesota. According to sources within the radio station, a small group of employees that support Trump had met after work for weeks to come up with various plans to make the Democrats look bad and Tweeden brought up being kissed by Franken."


Al Franken: The Obvious Setup and Liberals Took the Bait https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029878975


A Survivors Defense of Al Franken https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029885250


Let's Check: Why would anyone so demand the resignation of Sen Franken? https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029886562


So until I have a lot more information - along with some credible corroboration -- about Franken's accusers, the LAST thing he should do is resign. In addition, if Roy Moore wins and is seated no way Franken should be forced to resign.