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27. Very good, succinct summing up. nt

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OK. I'm a little dense. Why is recognizing Jerusalem as capital so terrible? [View all] maveric Dec 2017 OP

I really don't know myself except that this has been a right wing thing for years now. CTyankee Dec 2017 #1

All parties in Israel support Jerusalem as the capital. former9thward Dec 2017 #19

Thank you for the explanation. I feel kinda stupid...I thought it was Tel Aviv... CTyankee Dec 2017 #20

The controversary is that Palestinians also claim portions of Jerusalem. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #38

Thanks. maveric Dec 2017 #21

Also important to note Alea Dec 2017 #24

Very good, succinct summing up. nt marybourg Dec 2017 #27

Very well put leftynyc Dec 2017 #31

And the Israeli Government is STILL holding the land, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #51

Yes they did strike first Alea Dec 2017 #60

International Law disagrees with you. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #88

While the people in the World Court and UN sit in their little bubble Alea Dec 2017 #96

A nice framing of the preferred narrative in support of the Israeli Government. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #97

I think this is where we just agree to disagree Alea Dec 2017 #98

I would never assume anything of you. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #99

Israel IS stealing land and displacing Palestinians - who claim East Jerusalem as THEIR capital. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #59

Well maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have sided with Egypt Alea Dec 2017 #70

Please don't let leftynyc Dec 2017 #72

They? The people who rejected the state 70 years ago are mostly dead. Mariana Dec 2017 #91

Yes, because there is nothing stopping leftynyc Dec 2017 #92

Well, yes. Alea Dec 2017 #95

Wow. Oh, back at you. If you refuse to recognize the the theft and removal of Palestinians chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #74

I leterally just returned from Israel... Adrahil Dec 2017 #76

Thank you for sharing your fresh and truthful insights. So many here refuse to see what Israel chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #84

Nothing I have said comes from, or has, any reference to the Bible Alea Dec 2017 #89

You've had some very good posts ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #101

The problem is the definition of "Jerusalem" karynnj Dec 2017 #66

Theres a difference between what Saudi Arabia says for public consumption Calista241 Dec 2017 #79

Good points karynnj Dec 2017 #82

No one said that. treestar Dec 2017 #75

Then where is its capital? former9thward Dec 2017 #85

Maybe it would have been judicious treestar Dec 2017 #100

Maybe it would have been better to designate Chicago as our capital. former9thward Dec 2017 #104

Because both Israel and Palestine claim it as their own blogslut Dec 2017 #2

It's mostly... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #3

And for some reason God mercuryblues Dec 2017 #10

It's true... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #13

I mean... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #14

They're pro Israel, leftynyc Dec 2017 #33

Thank you... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #45

Only 144,000 Jews can convert,according to the rapture folklore. arthritisR_US Dec 2017 #50

Ya think the Jews would know that the insane American Christians Iliyah Dec 2017 #57

It's about rebuilding the temple for the third time Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #4

The Arabs did not respect your "tradition" of being a shared city. former9thward Dec 2017 #23

Thank you leftynyc Dec 2017 #35

Oh please, Israel is an apartheid state, stealing land and livelihoods from the Palestinians. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #61

I see you're leftynyc Dec 2017 #71

You're making a lot of mistaken assumptions about my beliefs. I see you. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #73

I'm looking at what leftynyc Dec 2017 #81

You are blaming the victims, turning a blind eye to how they have been driven out of their homes and chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #83

Not until the Palestinian issue is dealt with Maeve Dec 2017 #5

It doesnt negate anything. Calista241 Dec 2017 #80

The Mayor of Jerusalem disagrees with you Maeve Dec 2017 #87

Getting in the middle of religious turf battles. Dem_4_Life Dec 2017 #6

That's pretty much the way I've seen it too, at least the most simple explanation. I'm not an RKP5637 Dec 2017 #9

Here's a very good explanation of the situation. enough Dec 2017 #7

+1, n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #11

Thanks. nolabear Dec 2017 #32

And naturally the Palestinians leftynyc Dec 2017 #36

what would happen if bdamomma Dec 2017 #37

Haven't seen Juan Cole cited around here for some time. Fozzledick Dec 2017 #42

No words. Juan Cole doesn't hate - he is one of the few truth-tellers about the Middle East. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #62

+1, I also heard a flippancy in Trump's explanation today that this is just R B Garr Dec 2017 #48

Thank you. Snackshack Dec 2017 #53

There is no one who hates Hillary Clinton more than Juan Cole (the author of this piece) oberliner Dec 2017 #56

One terrible thing gratuitous Dec 2017 #8

makes it harder to be a moderate in the middle east dembotoz Dec 2017 #12

It is recognized as a universal city for three religions and as the current custodian Israel grantcart Dec 2017 #15

"Change the racial mix of the city". Sounds rather benign. Forced removal, you mean? chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #86

Issuing permits for Jewish settlers, see Nof Zion. grantcart Dec 2017 #106

So...ethnic cleansing. Dirty bastards. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #107

Generally speaking "ethnic cleansing" means that you are grantcart Dec 2017 #108

In word or deed? Bottom line same. Ethnic cleansing. chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #109

Because Palastinians matter. nt Tavarious Jackson Dec 2017 #16

Both sides claim Jerusalem...this will cause a bloodbath and ends any Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #17

I have never understood this issue myself. logosoco Dec 2017 #18

To paraphrase Bartcop (r.i.p.), just zealots fighting and dying over "holy dirt" Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #34

because three different mythologies claim it as their #1 holy location snooper2 Dec 2017 #22

Jerusalem is the third holiest place in Islam. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author grossproffit Dec 2017 #46

It's not. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. grossproffit Dec 2017 #25

It's about moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #26

Jerusalem is Israel and Israel is Jerusalem. grossproffit Dec 2017 #30

I know you're not trying to sound that way Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #43

Like Paris is France and France is Paris? grossproffit Dec 2017 #47

Not even close to the same thing. Adrahil Dec 2017 #78

Jerusalem is about Jesus and Mohammed, too. A unique problem. kwassa Dec 2017 #65

Abbas didn't mention Jews at all. Only Arab Christians and Muslims in his speech. grossproffit Dec 2017 #69

How about some more facts leftynyc Dec 2017 #41

That's about what I got out of it, too. It was more about moving the Embassy to R B Garr Dec 2017 #49

Except your post isn't factual. Mosby Dec 2017 #63

I answered the OP, which I stand by. You can take further debate to the appropriate forum. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #68

It's not leftynyc Dec 2017 #29

All you need to know is if Trump supports it, it's bad. Initech Dec 2017 #39

Jerusalem as capital of Israel has been the official position of the Democratic Party for years. onenote Dec 2017 #44

Thanks for the post ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #52

Evangelical Fundies expect that when Jerusalem is capitol of Israel, the Rapture will happen. irisblue Dec 2017 #40

Have u ever heard of the crusades? BootinUp Dec 2017 #54

That crossed my mind. maveric Dec 2017 #94

Simple Egnever Dec 2017 #55

It's sacred ground to Muslims, Christians and MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #58

It's not. Mosby Dec 2017 #64

Because Trump's Religous Bigots want Christ to return to the Lint Head Dec 2017 #67

Well it's important because MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #77

Iffen ya do, more people get dead. Iggo Dec 2017 #90

Because the Israeli line is "Jerusalem UNDIVIDED is our capitol" Azathoth Dec 2017 #93

any support for that claim? ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #102

lol, the word of the Israeli prime minister isn't good enough for you? Azathoth Dec 2017 #105

Here's a good explanation: muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #110