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In reply to the discussion: I Believe Frankens Accusers Because He Groped Me, Too [View all]LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)That's what a friend and I were discussing yesterday. Is a touch on the shoulder/waist or an accidental bumping of a woman's rear end by a male (or even a woman bumping another woman's rear if she's a lesbian) if taking a group picture sexual assault?
To some women, touching a waist/shoulder or accidentally bumping into a woman's rear end if taking a picture IS sexual assault.
The same friend (56 years old now, was brutally raped in Florida by 2 men when she was 29) told me that her young niece told her that she and her friends (Niece/friends are 30-ish, and most of her friends agree with that definition of sexual assault) think that a hand too far around the waist is groping. She said she told her niece "Wait a minute GG (Niece's nickname), a touch of the shoulder/hand/arm too far around a waist or bumping of a rear end in a picture for a moment is considered sexual assault to you and your friends?" The niece said "Yes, we feel it's going too far." My friend told the niece "GG, you know auntie was brutally raped by 2 animals, and your Mom and Me told you numerous times what I went through (She was treated for PTSD, and couldn't work for almost a year and a half). She told her "Sweetie, I wished I'd ONLY been touched on my shoulder/waist or bumped on my rear in a group picture." My friend said her niece said "Auntie I love you, but touching any part of my person that I don't want you to touch--I'll call sexual assault." My friend said seriously? and she said yes auntie. SERIOUSLY.
I told my friend that the #MeToo movement's in trouble if what your niece told you she and her friends classify as sexual assault. She said she felt sick to her stomach literally when her niece defined sexual assault to her. I said how many pictures have you taken where you work (She's a supervisor @ a hospital) even after your rape where you accidentally touched/bumped a man's/doctor's rear when you were taking pictures? She said many's the time I was in a tight angle shot and a doctor bumped my rear end. We took a picture or two or whatever the function was, and we walked away. I said I've been in tight angle shots as well and bumped a guys rear and he's bumped/brushed mine with his arm or front side. Again, I said we're SO screwed IF, IF, IF. She said tell me about it. I'm stunned that GG thinks that way. Where's her common sense?
Brutal and actual sexual assaults will be diminished over time if only a shoulder/waist touch whatever is considered sexual assault.
Where are we going with this?