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Jarqui

(10,150 posts)
37. There are some parts I agree with you on but not entirely
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:42 PM
Dec 2017

I think there is an aspect of animal dominance going on - whether the one being assaulted is male or female and whether the one doing the assault is male or female. We see those terrible statistics of women sexually abusing boys - which defies your suggestion of males just substituting for females. Look at all the female teachers caught sexually abusing their students.

For as much as many women fear coming forward after this has happened to them, the problem seems to be as bad or maybe even worse for men. It may well not be related to a career concern as frequently but may well tie to the old stigma you seem to relate to that males are supposed to be the stronger one and therefore, there is greater shame when the male is overcome and sexually abused. For me, whether male or female, there is some humiliation, some violation and a desire for privacy - things like that going on in both.

Having said that, my outrage for people like Weinstein or Bill Cosby doing this stuff seems limitless. I'd like to see those men behind bars for the rest of their lives. So do not mistake my views as something related to tolerance. There should be zero tolerance and the sooner some of these people wind up severely punished, the sooner society realizes the behavior is truly unacceptable regardless of which sex is involved.

In Al Franken's case, I simply want more evidence. I'm not convinced in his case yet.

the anti franken crowd is silent when it comes to trump. one wonders why. nt msongs Dec 2017 #1
I suspect many will be equally as silent when their own ox is gored kcr Dec 2017 #6
The damage this time dragonlady Dec 2017 #9
No question, an investigation would be in Al's favor Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #17
Russian/rightwing trolls probably. ananda Dec 2017 #11
100% AGREED ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #2
I'm with you, my dear TygrBright! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2017 #3
Franken must call for the same from Trump. That should be his message. librechik Dec 2017 #4
Right there with you Bright Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #5
and if moore wins, they better slice and dice him but good. mopinko Dec 2017 #7
I so agree. Why are these senators letting Dotard go on his merry way? Tipperary Dec 2017 #8
Get thee to the Greatest thread! ffr Dec 2017 #10
I hope his FB account and office email is FLOODED with do NOT resign messages DFW Dec 2017 #12
Good post. nt jalan48 Dec 2017 #13
text RESIST to 50409 to send a free fax to your Senators...Mine.... samnsara Dec 2017 #14
Excuse me, but another harasser is unmentioned charliea Dec 2017 #15
Excuse Moi.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #27
I'm still troubled. Jarqui Dec 2017 #16
Here's the picture of them.......... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #19
How come she isn't grimacing from him grabbing her waist in way Jarqui Dec 2017 #21
The expression on a woman's face means NOTHING. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #24
I do not agree Jarqui Dec 2017 #25
I'm pretty sure I have not only experienced more hassment than you, Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #28
Comparing Franken to Weinstein is night and day Jarqui Dec 2017 #30
It is night and day - and there would be even more reason for outcry Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #31
This is a strawman and not what I have claimed: Jarqui Dec 2017 #32
Whether you call it zero - or near zero - it is the same thing. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #36
I did not say "near zero" you're making that up Jarqui Dec 2017 #38
Here's some food for your thoughts on misogyny Jarqui Dec 2017 #34
I don't think I ever said otherwise, Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #35
There are some parts I agree with you on but not entirely Jarqui Dec 2017 #37
I'm fine with not convinced. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #39
In terms of numbers, on the other side of the coin Jarqui Dec 2017 #40
No! Do not resign, we need you. LadyVV Dec 2017 #18
Every Dem Senator calling for Franken to resign, better be prepared to resign as well nadine_mn Dec 2017 #20
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #33
TRUE, Tygrbright! What's this, "Oh, we don't want to impeach Trump" but "Franken needs to resign"??? Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #22
Coming in loud and clear and I want to know as well. triron Dec 2017 #29
Damn right! ancianita Dec 2017 #23
Must Have Missed This Thread..... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #26
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