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65. The Dem principle I was referring to: Due Process

Reply to TDale313 (Reply #64)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:53 AM

Dec 2017

I don't believe in sacrificing due process. One can be against sexual harassment and for due process.

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What did Franken do [View all] KT2000 Dec 2017 OP

It's not what he did. It's that the Democrats in the Senate The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #1

Don't they understand that a zero tolerance policy opens them all up to attacks? unitedwethrive Dec 2017 #12

It is also hypocrisy -esp those who oppose zero tolerance delisen Dec 2017 #61

That's it it is all a political calculation, the Democrats think sacrificing doc03 Dec 2017 #29

They find that they experience blowback if their avebury Dec 2017 #56

What did he do? dflprincess Dec 2017 #2

The only thing I can think of that Franken did was ,... Jimbo101 Dec 2017 #3

Roger Stone choreographed the whole thing. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2017 #9

?? orleans Dec 2017 #34

I dont quite get it, either. TDale313 Dec 2017 #4

So when does zero tolerance apply to Republicans? ollie10 Dec 2017 #58

Political expedient maybe-just seeing 2018 as savior year delisen Dec 2017 #59

Not sure I agree that being against sexual harassment TDale313 Dec 2017 #64

The Dem principle I was referring to: Due Process delisen Dec 2017 #65

There is no difference between "unwanted flirtation" and predatory behavior. Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #5

The issue isn't whether the behavior is acceptable; it's what the penalty should be. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #6

Resigning from office isn't ending his life. We aren't throwing him in prison. Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #7

We DO NOT want him out of office. I am a Minnesota resident, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #10

Are you even remotely concerned at all for the women who have accused Franken? Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #11

Are you concerned about women Madam Mossfern Dec 2017 #13

Yeah, I've definitely spoken out against Roy Moore. Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #15

No, I didn't think that your answer would be no Madam Mossfern Dec 2017 #19

Thanks for this. I think you have made the argument but I fear the momentum may push him out. jakesblues Dec 2017 #43

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #49

Exactly! His alledged offenses are on a completely different level than alledged offenses OhioBlue Dec 2017 #17

Well said! dhol82 Dec 2017 #27

+1, I pray he doesn't resign seeing the huge amount of conflation uponit7771 Dec 2017 #50

I believe he is entitled to the ethics investigation he requested. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #14

not Tweeden KT2000 Dec 2017 #21

then there's this: orleans Dec 2017 #36

and this orleans Dec 2017 #37

Of course but I'm concerned with due process also one doesn't override the other uponit7771 Dec 2017 #48

And we are??? JeaneRaye Dec 2017 #25

About 50% of Democratic voters... Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #26

Politico? Really? JeaneRaye Dec 2017 #45

"We want him out of office"?! Collimator Dec 2017 #39

Half of Democratic voters want him gone... Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #40

Yeah, you forgot this little part "66 percent of voters said the ethics panel should probe Frankens uponit7771 Dec 2017 #51

Isn't it Minnesota's choice? LakeVermilion Dec 2017 #55

To whom? thx in advance uponit7771 Dec 2017 #47

I guess that should be part KT2000 Dec 2017 #18

Or, you know, they could pose for photos and not inappropriately grab women... Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #20

they would have to show their hands KT2000 Dec 2017 #22

And there's the problem. We don't trust women to not lie. Gravitycollapse Dec 2017 #24

You know, you cant have it both ways dhol82 Dec 2017 #30

Tweeden lied KT2000 Dec 2017 #38

Are those who state that accusation equals guilt secret predators? delisen Dec 2017 #60

Been wondering same thing... fairfaxvadem Dec 2017 #8

Good question. dhol82 Dec 2017 #33

He calls for higher taxes on billionaires... lostnfound Dec 2017 #16

Eight victims. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #23

How many are anonymous? nt doc03 Dec 2017 #32

Due process uponit7771 Dec 2017 #53

how many are Russians? how many are Roger Stone? ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #62

How many women have come forward about Donald Trump? I'll wait. YOHABLO Dec 2017 #28

So, you have convicted him of the accusations? Maybe wait until he speaks first. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #31

HaHaHa jakesblues Dec 2017 #44

"What did Franken do?" is the topic. See above OP. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #46

exactly- at the worst Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #35

Exactly! Dems are playing into the wingers hands. Duppers Dec 2017 #41

+1, he deserves due process not pile ons uponit7771 Dec 2017 #54

Zero tolerance, with Franken as a scapegoat goat to prove the point. wisteria Dec 2017 #42

Also, I'm not sure that a lot of those accusations happened. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #52

A reporter was talking about this on NPR earlier today Shrek Dec 2017 #57

great plan ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #63