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In reply to the discussion: Panel on MSNBC: He was railroaded. [View all]TiberiusB
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Again, as is often the case, allegations become established facts and people are judged on the thinnest of evidence.
He didn't grope Tweeden. This has been said over and over. He mimed it, but didn't grab her breasts.
The other woman, one of the five anonymous accusers, said he pawed the side of her breast, as I recall. Hmmm, could it be that he wrapped his arm around her back and his hand touched the side of her breast? That's not exactly groping.
The ass grabbing seems hard to believe, given the circumstances (in public with people all around), and the "it's my right as an entertainer" line reeks of bs.
I'm not even going to discuss the stupidity of claiming a firm grab around the waist counts as sexual assault in any way.
So, to review, one dubious claim from a hard right radio personality about an unproven kiss and a grope that may have never been more than a gesture or mime with no contact.
One ass grab in full view of a husband while in public surrounded by throngs of people.
5 anonymous claims of attempted kisses, ass or "almost ass" touches, a side breast touch, and a ludicrous quote.
Think about that. Five anonymous women, all in a row (no one standing up to attack the senator using their real name). Why the sudden string of women afraid to step into the light? They don't work for Senator Franken, and there's no evidence that they were at risk of a liberal attack online, unlike what happened with Sam Seder. One or two anonymous women might seem less suspicious, but the rapid appearance of five women unwilling to lend their name to their story? Come on. Are they legitimate? Could be, but not based on what I've seen so far. This is what investigations are for.
Regardless of the merits, it is virtually guaranteed that the Right now sees sexual harassment claims as a potent weapon to silence the Left. Conyers and Franken won't be the last. This will be an on going tactic now that it is understood that circumstantial evidence is more than enough to end a career (though in Conyers' case there was a settlement and the claims were more serious and at least sound more credible).
Nicely done Democrats.