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Johnny Rico

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218. Absolutely yes.

Reply to DainBramaged (Reply #214)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:47 PM

Jul 2012

Granted, it's not something I post about...but there are lots of things I don't post about.

Now what?

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A message to those who wish to ban or restrict guns: Give up. [View all] Johnny Rico Jul 2012 OP

Dear Johnny Rico. No. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #1

I never said to "shut up", I said to "give up". Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #6

NO. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #8

Because it's more realistic. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #16

Aaaah. Of course. Why bless your caring heart.. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #19

Historically gun control issues have lead to defeats for the Democratic Party. I assume you care ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #47

You mean like FDR. Did he lose the 1936 nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #84

The defining one in California was Prop 15 and Tom Bradley in the 1982 general election ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #115

It was both nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #125

Right. When things just become intolerable for the high and mighty, they are finally changed. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #148

Registration and the banning of guns really helped in Chicago. former9thward Jul 2012 #328

+1 Joseph Harrolds Dec 2012 #388

No, he is not trying to "help" you, he is telling you that you are wasting your time. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #90

Every massacre like this Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #98

Uhm ok, Pamela, whatever you say. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #100

That's the best you could do? Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #103

Thats the best YOU could do? cleanhippie Jul 2012 #108

I've offered arguments. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #119

Again, you tell yourself whatever you need to. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #124

I see. You got nothing. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #128

Reality is everything. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #130

well, Pamela Troy choie Jul 2012 #356

Tually she's correct nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #106

Lets talk again in 6 months and see if reality has changed. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #112

Did I say six months? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #123

Ok, if you say so. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #127

So everything in us politics is static and we have no changes ever nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #131

No, nadin, not everything, just this thing. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #134

So 150 years from now the NRA will still be considered heroes? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #143

I cannot say that they are considered heroes right now, and I am not clairvoyant, so... cleanhippie Jul 2012 #144

Gun nuts consider the NRA to be heroes. They're fighting the good fight. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #235

And gun grabbers are not fighting the good fight. They are fighting the wrong fight. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #284

"Gun Grabbers" just doesn't have much sting to it. Certainly not as much as recent events. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #285

I think it does. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #287

"gun worshippers."? I don't know anyone who says that. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #288

Sure you do. Look around. Your fellow grabbers use it frequently. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #305

Where? Here? I'm from outside. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #345

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #349

Obviously.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #352

Uhm, ok. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #353

If someone you cared for was killed xmas74 Jul 2012 #295

So you truly believe this will not change? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #151

Current reality and political discourse suggests that gun ownership rights will continue to expand. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #155

I am pointing to you, which you have trouble comprehending nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #164

I understand what you are saying, I simply disagree with you. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #166

The arc of history is long nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #168

Perhaps. Only time will tell. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #171

That could have happened a while ago nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #176

Wait, what? I'M the one making personal attacks? cleanhippie Jul 2012 #181

Yes you have nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #188

Sigh. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #191

Notice the personal attack? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #195

Bwahahaha! cleanhippie Jul 2012 #199

You to nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #204

Thanks. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #207

The differnece in this case is as follows: bighart Jul 2012 #291

You might quote all you want nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #297

Please note that I am not advocating for gun rights. bighart Jul 2012 #331

And the last one, may still come. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #359

we've been fighting about abortion and payer in school for how long now? nebenaube Jul 2012 #260

And I guess we should cede the field nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #265

The problem, Nadine, The Doctor. Jul 2012 #138

That's part of the recipee indeed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #152

I hope you're right. The Doctor. Jul 2012 #163

Oh we will nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #165

That's a pretty bold prediction... zappaman Jul 2012 #169

I think responses like that only serve to give them the percieved satisfaction of having the cleanhippie Jul 2012 #183

I can agree with you. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #156

Hippie? Making excuses for the NRA? Cooley Hurd Jul 2012 #111

Bwahahahaha! Here comes the dishonesty we've come to know and love! cleanhippie Jul 2012 #116

Do you have anything to offer other than posturing? Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #122

Yep, its called reality. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #126

And I've responded to those people. At least they brought something to the table. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #129

Bwahahahahaha! Your childish attempts at insult are funny. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #132

You again? Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #136

You again? cleanhippie Jul 2012 #139

That's the problem, they're not. Somebody has the data on one of these threads, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #219

Dear Johnny Rico...you must be in your glory today...you have been on movonne Jul 2012 #161

Please watch: snappyturtle Jul 2012 #189

So accepting the occasional massacre is just the cost of doing business? rbixby Jul 2012 #376

Give up? soccer1 Jul 2012 #33

Bravo!! Duppers Jul 2012 #110

I totally agree with your assessment. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #35

You're being kind of general here....... soccer1 Jul 2012 #272

Not only no, HELL, NO!!!! lastlib Jul 2012 #373

Sorry, I'll never give up advocating for the banning of jaysunb Jul 2012 #2

Even though you KNOW that will never happen? randome Jul 2012 #9

Exactly so. n/t Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #23

Evidently neither on symathy. lunatica Jul 2012 #25

'Sympathy'? You think I don't feel something for those who died? randome Jul 2012 #34

No, because if you're realistic about the issue of guns, The Doctor. Jul 2012 #135

I hope to God you don't live to regret not doing tblue Jul 2012 #253

+1 nt jaysunb Jul 2012 #262

So you are willing to disarm the weak and leave them to the mercy of the predators in our society ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #48

You misunderstand. The predators will also give up their weapons if a law is passed shadowrider Jul 2012 #85

No. treestar Jul 2012 #3

I will never unilaterally disarm to benefit the NRA. tblue Jul 2012 #256

Great advice: Give up, just at the moment this issue is gaining traction. Thanks for your concern. leveymg Jul 2012 #4

You bet, I'm terrified that Obama is going to take my guns away...not! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #12

I'm not sure the issue is gaining traction Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #18

Precisely my point. n/t Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #21

You might want to explain what "Molon Labe" means. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #81

We've seen an awful lot of this meme lately haven't we? CTyankee Jul 2012 #31

Gaining traction? I very much doubt it. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #44

Lets see in 6 months how much traction it really has ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #49

Gaining traction like slicks in a snow storm. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #65

If you think "DU is absolutely meaningless", why hang around here? leveymg Jul 2012 #79

I've asked that question many times Tsiyu Jul 2012 #186

"You know when you hear this sort of response, they're afraid something is about to change." cleanhippie Jul 2012 #93

rec rec rec... Cooley Hurd Jul 2012 #113

And every time a shooting like this happens, it's going to come up treestar Jul 2012 #280

Look at UK. No gun culture there. Panasonic Jul 2012 #5

Do you think there's the *slightest* chance that those numbnut politicians will enact UK-style Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #27

While the UK has a very low murder rate it isn't that low.. EX500rider Jul 2012 #174

Murders by gun Panasonic Jul 2012 #354

So its OK with you if they are murdered by stabbing? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #380

I'm pretty much an agnostic on guns, don't care that much one way or the other.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #7

Bingo! kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #162

A message to Right Wingers: Fuck you. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #10

...and the apologists they rode in on Major Nikon Jul 2012 #88

Wow, that is the strongest argument yet! cleanhippie Jul 2012 #97

It wasn't intended to be an argument Major Nikon Jul 2012 #105

Ahh, I see. Glad I didn't mistake your post for something intelligent to say then. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #178

Frankly, it's no less valid than "give up" nt Pholus Jul 2012 #196

To be fair, JR's argument was much more substantial than "give up". cleanhippie Jul 2012 #201

Oh yes: Give up. It's hopeless but whine if you must. Pholus Jul 2012 #211

If you say so... cleanhippie Jul 2012 #213

Enlighten me o wise one: What was said substantially different than my summary? Pholus Jul 2012 #224

Well, that sure showed the Right Wingers. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #96

Aww, did hurt I your feewings? Son of Gob Jul 2012 #154

No, not at all. It find it hillarious when people who have nothing substantial to say feel the need cleanhippie Jul 2012 #158

Just as I thought Son of Gob Jul 2012 #167

Actually, I'm unsure you were thinking at all. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #170

I'm thinking you exposed yourself Son of Gob Jul 2012 #175

Youre on a roll, don't stop now. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #179

*sigh* nevermind. n/t KarenS Jul 2012 #11

No. myrna minx Jul 2012 #13

A message to the gun culture: you have blood on your hands. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #14

Do you really think that's going to make them give up their guns? randome Jul 2012 #17

No. But I think we have a responsibility to not be silent. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #26

Agree with you there. randome Jul 2012 #32

Or stop focusing on the sprees... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #51

I agree with you about the decriminalization aspect. randome Jul 2012 #57

Really? beevul Jul 2012 #252

Hey who knew Clayton Williams was a DU member Johonny Jul 2012 #15

Sure. Thanks for restoring my sanity. lunatica Jul 2012 #20

And the occasional horrific civilian massacre is just the price the rest of us have to pay. baldguy Jul 2012 #22

It's still not going to change anything. randome Jul 2012 #28

The only allowable option to be discussed is Moar Securiteh... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #60

How does 9,000 dead out of 300 million make us a sick culture? n/t EX500rider Jul 2012 #185

Well, if it had the same rate of gun deaths as the UK GCP Jul 2012 #370

And if we had the same rate of stabbings the figure would be higher.. EX500rider Jul 2012 #375

I don't care. Guns are boring. Quantess Jul 2012 #24

But you cared about it enough to tell that to the world? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #29

Yeah, I know... Quantess Jul 2012 #67

Out of the *hundreds* of gun threads, you chose mine first! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #70

You are right, won't change right now nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #30

Background checks are clearly a good step! randome Jul 2012 #39

A background check would not have prevented this horrific event from what we know so far. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #40

But it could prevent others nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42

Go to Gunbroker, not Sears. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #46

Thank you for proving my point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #54

I'll freely grant that there's far more gun regulation now than before the 1930's. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #68

I would not call it freedom nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #74

Johnny, I applaud your efforts here... cleanhippie Jul 2012 #121

agreed.... Even a minor Gun Control measure would not get 20 votes in the Senate...n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #141

I said no such thing Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #71

And I pointed out that this is actually a favorite NRA nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #78

I don't follow the NRA so I don't have any idea what their talking points are Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #137

He visited a local gun shop nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #172

We already have background checks. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #66

But 40% of all gun transactions do not involve one nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #69

I discussed that in my initial reply. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #76

I agree, it can be done nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #80

Would you give me the source of your 40% statistic? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #192

The good folks at Harvard. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #197

Which good folks? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #206

Harvard Injury Control Institute nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #221

Thanks, I found it. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #239

Aka private. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #245

Ok, but its clear that the gun show is a small source of private gun exchanges. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #263

It's called that way, but that's what it is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #264

So you want to get rid of all nonchecked private sales, gifts and inheritances? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #274

100% back ground checks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #275

No. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #36

I need a license to drive my car. I need insurance for my car. I would need extensive training 2on2u Jul 2012 #37

I agree completely dickthegrouch Jul 2012 #55

I agree with your list, too. randome Jul 2012 #61

But JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #62

If I attempt to drive my car in public (license plate) and I don't have authorization to do 2on2u Jul 2012 #109

If you attempt to carry gun in public and don't have authorization to do (CCW) Angleae Jul 2012 #177

In Texas, you cannot buy a vehicle without a current valid license AND insurance mbperrin Jul 2012 #133

Yes you can. I live in Texas and have done so. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #159

You're breaking the law and fraudulently keeping the state of Texas from collecting the tax due mbperrin Jul 2012 #286

Are those goalposts heavy? You have moved them. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #292

Actually, you paid money, but own nothing if you didn't transfer title. Just keep ignoring the Texas mbperrin Jul 2012 #300

Your original post said NOTHING about title. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #357

No title, no ownership. So says Texas. mbperrin Jul 2012 #358

But you don't have to have insurance for the car if it doesn't go on public roads. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #369

You have to have a driver's license AND insurance effective for that vehicle at the moment of title mbperrin Jul 2012 #374

You are still wrong about the insurance. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #377

Maybe it's just me but don't MOST people who buy vehicles drive them on public roads? Redford Jul 2012 #378

True. But the other guy was saying that insurance was ALWAYS required. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #379

Okay, I was going to just stop, but you won't. GIVE A LINK mbperrin Jul 2012 #383

Again, you keep yapping about title. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #384

Finally, back on topic. Yes, any felon, drunk, druggie, illegal, insane, or other mbperrin Jul 2012 #382

All FFL at a gun show have to follow the same rules as at the store. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #385

Wrong on so many levels. beevul Jul 2012 #254

Usay. n/t 2on2u Jul 2012 #386

Thank You Very Much For this Posting Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #38

Very sad commentary on political discourse... jimlup Jul 2012 #41

The "fact" that you're going to win eventually? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #43

How about you? Where did you get your crystal ball? wakemewhenitsover Jul 2012 #72

There's a term for the OP's state of mind... wakemewhenitsover Jul 2012 #73

Heh. Touché Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #75

Let's say there's no hope of rapid change in gun control laws.... wakemewhenitsover Jul 2012 #142

I'm afraid you've completely misread me. I'm against gun control. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #147

You're right. I did misread you. wakemewhenitsover Jul 2012 #255

I think the points made in my OP stand regardless of my feelings on the matter. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #258

It's impossible to win when your side keeps going backwards n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #92

That certainly doesn't appear to be true in Europe or the UK jimlup Jul 2012 #282

Never. tosh Jul 2012 #45

I could really use the Un-rec feature right now. bahrbearian Jul 2012 #50

Sad but true grantcart Jul 2012 #52

No. Giving up and going to the Gun Free Speach Zone is irrelevant. I think this is a game changer. Lint Head Jul 2012 #53

Why would this be a game changer when Virginia Tech, with almost 3 times the deaths, wasn't? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #56

It is a game-changer. For about a month. randome Jul 2012 #59

Only the future knows. Lint Head Jul 2012 #63

A month is far too long. I give it till the end of next week. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #87

Members can't be bothered with the cause, only the tool. Tejas Jul 2012 #58

Thus the thread started in the gungeon n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #91

Nice try. You can go collect liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #64

Christ, Johnny, how small is it? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #77

DUzy Tsiyu Jul 2012 #223

The gun debate was over the moment the assault weapon ban was passed, and the gun lobby won. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #82

Even if you ban all guns they'd still be a black market to get them. All we can really do is try to craigmatic Jul 2012 #83

Indeed. Talk is cheap. L0oniX Jul 2012 #86

S-U-R-R-E-N-D-E-R DOROTHY ThoughtCriminal Jul 2012 #89

Maybe not after this killing spree. And maybe not the next one when 30 are shot in a mall. Evoman Jul 2012 #94

Dr. King was told to give up too, so was Nelson Mandela graham4anything Jul 2012 #95

You lost me when you labeled the authoritarian fascist Bloomberg as a liberal TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #257

Meanwhile, IN THE REAL WORLD Cheap_Trick Jul 2012 #99

You know, Ineeda Jul 2012 #101

Johnny Rico stonecutter357 Jul 2012 #102

If you want to fight firearms abuse, fight it the same way tobacco is being fought OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #104

Darn. I thought you were going to say class action lawsuits... Pholus Jul 2012 #229

+1. We also changed how people viewed tobacco and banned its use in a lot of public places. Hoyt Jul 2012 #364

Some other things I sure "Give Up" was suggested seriously. airplaneman Jul 2012 #107

That's what the segregationists said in the 40's Doctor_J Jul 2012 #114

Ya think? Well, here's another view... 1monster Jul 2012 #117

Some day the American people will stand up to the gun nuts. But what on earth will it take? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #118

Never. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #120

Well, that's the spirit! liberalmuse Jul 2012 #140

"Give Up" Messages found on DU in previous years: HankyDub Jul 2012 #145

We can't remove an anti-trust exemption or stop food stamp cuts or even keep critical firefighters TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #299

Fuck the NRA nt NoGOPZone Jul 2012 #146

Odd timing for triumphalist rhetoric alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #149

Not odd at all. After seeing post after post calling for draconian gun control, Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #150

Draconian? Really? Point one out please. Just one. n/t Ineeda Jul 2012 #153

any restriction is viewed as draconian HankyDub Jul 2012 #160

Here's half a dozen. Need more? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #180

My God -- you are out of your fucking mind!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ineeda Jul 2012 #293

Because I support the law as it currently stands? Um, ok.... Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #294

And folks like that are walking around in public with a gun or two strapped on every day. Hoyt Jul 2012 #366

more like insanity HankyDub Jul 2012 #157

Why hasn't this thead ben moved yet? MattBaggins Jul 2012 #173

Because they can't nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #182

Nope, voted 5-1 to keep it open, I tried, it insults and disgusts me however DainBramaged Jul 2012 #222

Because guns are currently on-topic in GD. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #187

If their only purpose is flame bait, then yes. MattBaggins Jul 2012 #190

Are you trying to get the anti-gun threads whose only contribution to the dialogue is Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #194

Fuck the NRA is perfectly fine for DU MattBaggins Jul 2012 #238

Because the sewage pipe to the gungeon backed up. Major Hogwash Jul 2012 #198

no, I will not give up niyad Jul 2012 #184

And yet you feel threatened enough in the last couple of days to make this post? Pholus Jul 2012 #193

If you think I feel any guilt, you don't know me very well! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #202

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #212

I figured it was either guilt or trolling. Guess it's just trolling then. nt Pholus Jul 2012 #217

Wow, well, since you feel that way, and mock us to boot, fuck you. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #200

Typical bully Tsiyu Jul 2012 #203

Always the same until they get the tombstone DainBramaged Jul 2012 #205

Or a forced time out? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #208

It's as if he is mocking us for choosing life over death DainBramaged Jul 2012 #209

Yeah...it is Tsiyu Jul 2012 #210

SAY I have a question, will you defend the right for Gays to marry as vehemently? DainBramaged Jul 2012 #214

Absolutely yes. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #218

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #225

Here Here!!!! Hear Hear!!!! Tsiyu Jul 2012 #228

nobody's taking your guns... spanone Jul 2012 #215

When did I assert that they were? And please, be specific. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #220

right wing gun nuts often make idiotic arguments n/t quinnox Jul 2012 #216

" From my cold dead hands " Never !! Gun Nuts Dance in my orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #226

Regarding the rest of the world, he knows nothing, just where to get a deal on gun oil DainBramaged Jul 2012 #227

Have all the guns you like. Regulate the ammo, I say. Akoto Jul 2012 #230

Bringing things on-topic...will you grant that your proposal doesn't have the slightest chance Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #232

Why do you have over 30,000 rounds? What are you planning to do with them? Demit Jul 2012 #243

Mostly, just collect them. I like to have a few hundred rounds for each of my guns. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #246

I hope you realize a few of those rounds are extremely old stock by now nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #248

30 year old ammo isn't considered "old". Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #250

Bang has nothing to do with stability nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #303

30 year old ammo that's been stored under proper conditions is perfectly stable. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #306

Well, I guess I will take the word of a pro on this nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #360

How old was the ammuntion you used when you were in the middle of the ... zappaman Jul 2012 #323

So you overbuy ammunition, for no particular reason. Demit Jul 2012 #290

Why is it overbuying to have around 300 rounds of ammunition (on average) for each firearm one owns? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #296

I was speaking of hoarders in general, who hoard other things (that pile up inside their houses). Demit Jul 2012 #304

Ok...you say I'm a hoarder. I say I'm not. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #309

Now, nothing. I don't know you & hopefully don't live near you so it doesn't matter to me. Demit Jul 2012 #333

With all due respect, you don't seem to know much about ammunition. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #334

You're right, I don't. Demit Jul 2012 #351

The collecting bug bites us all in different ways... Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #355

With all, due respect nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #363

You are correct nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #371

Stocking up for a zombie invasion or Y2K prob'ly. Pholus Jul 2012 #247

No, I will not grant that. Akoto Jul 2012 #277

Then regulate the buying and selling of ammo Politicub Jul 2012 #231

See #232. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #233

The same people who freak out over gun rights also freak out over TSA searches starroute Jul 2012 #234

Thanks for showing me that it "could be worse." Pholus Jul 2012 #237

Give up? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #236

Support for gun ownership and concealed carry is at an all time high? w/math edit randr Jul 2012 #240

name ONE state that has voted AGAINST concealed carry when placed on the ballot? Logical Jul 2012 #241

Name a state where enormous amounts of outside money randr Jul 2012 #249

+6000 (for the number of rounds of ammo Holmes possessed) nashville_brook Jul 2012 #271

Careful on the math. Pholus Jul 2012 #242

As Time goes on numbers are at an " all time high " orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #244

Your math is off 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #251

Those who get hardons and jerk off to weaponry hold this country back. morningfog Jul 2012 #259

Yep. No matter how horrid, this is not the ditch we will die in. Faygo Kid Jul 2012 #261

The Future of Gun Control... -..__... Jul 2012 #266

Most here aren't willing to listen to reason on the subject. Not all, thankfully. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #268

But... but... but... -..__... Jul 2012 #270

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Folks fought to end slavery for 100 years quaker bill Jul 2012 #267

"May they rust into pieces." Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #269

And it didn't happen with a vote. Your historical reference is not relevent IMO but actually makes grantcart Jul 2012 #276

I do not propose activism quaker bill Jul 2012 #289

I am very familiar with the work of both Quakers and Mennonites. grantcart Jul 2012 #311

I am fine with activism on other issues as well quaker bill Jul 2012 #315

"In this case activism only promotes opposition and stuffs the coffers of the NRA", 100% agreement. grantcart Jul 2012 #316

Problem is that it's not even the historic norm nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #298

Yes the mythologizing on the issue is rather astonishing. grantcart Jul 2012 #312

It's going to take a Nixon to China-type deal BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #278

Gun Control is political suicide. Look at 1994. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #279

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Jim Lane Jul 2012 #281

I have faith in President Obama. LAGC Jul 2012 #283

No, and thank you for the encouragement to fight on harder SaveAmerica Jul 2012 #301

ahhh.... no bowens43 Jul 2012 #302

To put it impolitely, FUCK YOU! pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #307

+1 ellisonz Jul 2012 #313

Hey, ellisonz pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #314

Aloha! ellisonz Jul 2012 #317

Shit, bro, you know I carried weapons--and used them--in VN pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #325

I think some of the gun nuts... ellisonz Jul 2012 #327

I think the worst thing for vets returning from combat abroad... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #330

A message to Johnny Rico, Hell No! SecularMotion Jul 2012 #308

Gun fetishists can go fuck themselves. alarimer Jul 2012 #310

A message to Johnny Rico: The Midway Rebel Jul 2012 #318

'Fraid so. That horse is so far out of the barn it can't be put back. stubtoe Jul 2012 #319

There are a lot of posters up-thread who refuse to see that. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #320

give up? LOL... arrogant nutcase fascisthunter Jul 2012 #321

Has anyone alerted on this? "Boys and girls"??? joeybee12 Jul 2012 #322

Pretty sure condescending posts aren't alertable zappaman Jul 2012 #324

some of us still want to talk about ideas for saving innocent lives and we're not smug samsingh Jul 2012 #326

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #329

Nuts Cherchez la Femme Jul 2012 #332

IIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Rex Jul 2012 #335

FUCK THE NRA! pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #336

I have no problem with banning ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #337

Which is pretty much the point of my OP! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #338

I know - ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #341

Dear Johnny Rico: don't tell me what to do. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #339

Would you also object to a post that tells people who own guns that they should have to turn Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #342

I object to any post that asks people to "give up" on a cause they believe in. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #344

Would you feel better if I edited the OP not to say "boys and girls"? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #346

Whatever. I see you've edited it. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #365

restricting guns would be just as foolish for the Dems as passing civil rights was in the 60's Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #340

Yep, we might as well kiss the redneck wannabe vote goodybe! YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #343

How'd that work out in 1994? I know, let's ask President Clinton! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #347

How many of those NRA 'swing voters" are still Democrats? YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #348

I haven't the faintest idea, but there's no reason to think that 18 years laters the next generation Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #350

Sadly, that's when lots of folks started arming up, packing in public, and supporting right wingers. Hoyt Jul 2012 #367

We Have a Machine Gun Problem That's Only Going to Get Worse SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #361

Are you under the impression that there *aren't* heavy restrictions on machine gun ownership? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #362

Give up? 99Forever Jul 2012 #368

I imagine an intractable dogma would indeed see that. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #372

And a black man could never be President, and Gays would never be allowed in the Military or given Pisces Jul 2012 #381

+1 Joseph Harrolds Dec 2012 #387

Kick Hal2814 Feb 2013 #389

I just recced your thread darkangel218 Sep 2015 #390

How totally and utterly odd that you would. The poster is a banned repeat troll. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #391

I like looking up old threads darkangel218 Sep 2015 #392

She followed the link from Discussionist pintobean Sep 2015 #393