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Demsrule86

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150. Really...how interesting.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:50 PM
Dec 2017

I don't believe it. but even if true...so what? Not a reason resign unless you worked for him

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This is sad but as I was saying in another thread, I think Dem Senators are acting on writes3000 Dec 2017 #1
I respect anyone who comes out and identifies themselves, and definitely adds to the credibility still_one Dec 2017 #3
I'm sorry, still one, but all eight accusers can't all be lying. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #5
Sorry but I do not consider anonymous accusers as credible as those who identify themselves still_one Dec 2017 #7
I can't keep up. How many are on the record ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #13
The one's who identifed themselves are on record as far as I am concerned. still_one Dec 2017 #14
How many have identified themselves ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #15
I am not arguing with you DSB, I am just stating to me those accusers have more credibility. still_one Dec 2017 #36
I just hope all this unpleasantness passes. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #51
It will....... and then there will be something else still_one Dec 2017 #56
Which is a major factor why many women simply stay silent LanternWaste Dec 2017 #153
Truth. A pattern has emerged. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #54
I don't take any joy in this... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #57
Agreed on all points. nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #58
Wait, what? Didn't this last one say he "groped" her around her WAIST? brush Dec 2017 #79
It is now! kcr Dec 2017 #90
People don't even bother to read the article and see what it accuses him of. woolldog Dec 2017 #93
I had the same reaction Jarqui Dec 2017 #112
Yep, that's the latest accusation. LisaL Dec 2017 #96
Franken seemed to be touching in silly antic style as a funny man with no rainy Dec 2017 #127
But we CAN judge people by some standards of degree!! Did Franken molest CHILDREN? Commit felonies chimpymustgo Dec 2017 #140
If the bar is Pedo Moore we will have to ignore a lot of really egregious behavior. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #142
Sure they can. Since they won't give a name it could be ONE Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #65
The only victims I believe are the ones whose perpetrators I dislke DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #71
Oh bullshit. When the women come out and give their names Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #75
If you believe all eight accusers are lying there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #98
I believe one nutter equates a hand on her waist for a picture Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #105
If all the accusers are nutters... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #108
Because they are stupid and think " if we take the high road Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #113
Some critical thinking is required, including from the busload of senators throwing... brush Dec 2017 #118
The anonymous accusers are awfully convenient for the GOP. The known accusers BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #134
This woman was a victim....REALLY? Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #144
Senator Franken didn't inappropriately touch me so I can't speak to victimhood or lack thereof DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #146
Well you called her a victim in your post. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #147
Because she feels she is one and I don't get to validate or invalidate her or anybody's feelings. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #148
Absolutely! rusty fender Dec 2017 #85
Eight is enough. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #89
Two were righties and five were anonymous...we look weak not fighting it. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #151
That link makes her seem ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #8
I don't think so. She worked for Alan Grayson, she is currently a journalist. still_one Dec 2017 #10
I wonder if she ever found out if she had been an alcoholic? kcr Dec 2017 #11
That's what struck me as really strange ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #17
HER WAIST..he squeezed her waist a couple times...that PLAYFUL! angstlessk Dec 2017 #67
Alan Grayson Clarity2 Dec 2017 #132
Eight accusers is or should be enough. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #4
Subtract anonymous accusers HelenWheels Dec 2017 #37
So would it be 4, 5, or 6 ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #46
Wait. Are we not discounting Tweeden's account? Where she submitted a gag photo... brush Dec 2017 #94
She said it was ridiculous for him to consider resigning. And she accepted his apology. 7962 Dec 2017 #149
IMO she had no standing to accuse anyone of groping since she did it herself. brush Dec 2017 #152
I'm not sure I agree cilla4progress Dec 2017 #2
We should be prepared to be attacked, but I agree kcr Dec 2017 #9
Isn't it up to her whether she feels uncomfortable or not? FBaggins Dec 2017 #16
Then maybe when she stands with celebrities for photos she should warn them kcr Dec 2017 #19
Nah FBaggins Dec 2017 #22
This is nuts. kcr Dec 2017 #24
Laughable. FBaggins Dec 2017 #25
Don't believe women... about being touched on the waste during a picture. kcr Dec 2017 #26
Might as well just leave it at "don't believe women" FBaggins Dec 2017 #35
So the claim itself doesn't matter? kcr Dec 2017 #41
So which defense is it now? FBaggins Dec 2017 #43
I've never wavered. It's not a big deal. kcr Dec 2017 #45
Don't be cowed by the Franken apologists True Dough Dec 2017 #72
I'm sure the He groped me because he was thinking about it! I just know he was! accusation is coming kcr Dec 2017 #74
Laughable FBaggins Dec 2017 #82
Laughable is not caring that the accusations are annonymous kcr Dec 2017 #87
Nope... it's continuing to pretend that they ARE anonymous. FBaggins Dec 2017 #100
What? Pretend that they're anonymous? They are! It's a fact! kcr Dec 2017 #102
Nope. FBaggins Dec 2017 #110
But I'm the one who's spinning kcr Dec 2017 #115
Game this out . Let's say there was a Senate hearing. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #116
One major difference on where we would be FBaggins Dec 2017 #119
I empathize with Franken. Maybe in a different environment he keeps his job. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #120
I'm probably one of the most partisan Democrats but at some point the evidence becomes cumulative. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #76
Exactly FBaggins Dec 2017 #81
Every Democratic senator has called for his resignation or remained silent... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #86
The sad part, IMO, is that some Dems True Dough Dec 2017 #107
Of course Franken isn't as bad as Pedo Moore Or Chump. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #111
Why is she hugging his shoulder and why does she appear to be having a good time? grantcart Dec 2017 #21
So you're saying that she was asking for it, right? FBaggins Dec 2017 #23
Of course I didn' say that. I am saying that the picture doesn't match with her account grantcart Dec 2017 #31
Sigh. Have you not seen other photos with celebrities? FBaggins Dec 2017 #39
Read accounts of Taylor Swift's trial crazycatlady Dec 2017 #47
Right... I forgot about that one FBaggins Dec 2017 #53
This photo doesn't prove your point. woolldog Dec 2017 #103
How many more will it take? FBaggins Dec 2017 #114
Yes, please. Matt_R Dec 2017 #143
Has anyone won anything for hand around waist? LisaL Dec 2017 #64
Is that all he's accused of? FBaggins Dec 2017 #68
If you don't want to be touched, DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #48
That's A Punkish Reply! ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #124
Hyperbolic, but not close to punkish FBaggins Dec 2017 #126
Well she's allowed to touch him however she'd like but her waist is off limits? bettyellen Dec 2017 #28
exactly and she is behind him so she could have easily put some inches between them grantcart Dec 2017 #33
Then she shouldn't cuddle up to Franken. HelenWheels Dec 2017 #40
Please stop blaming the victim FBaggins Dec 2017 #42
Oh give me a break. LisaL Dec 2017 #60
I would agree if she were the first or second accuser FBaggins Dec 2017 #66
He posed for a lot of photos. LisaL Dec 2017 #84
Is her hand on his shoulder groping? Does her picture looked like she is uncomfortable about being grantcart Dec 2017 #20
I agree traladeda Dec 2017 #109
Not sure... Mandos the Judge Dec 2017 #6
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #12
This is a credible account. But an account of what? grantcart Dec 2017 #18
Yeah, after the photo was taken wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #141
What next. "He shook my hand too long!" ??? The_Casual_Observer Dec 2017 #27
He Shook My Hand erpowers Dec 2017 #61
Well, normally I wouldn't think a hand shake was sexual harassment, but kcr Dec 2017 #92
lol woolldog Dec 2017 #106
Isn't she on Stephanie Miller? N/t gay texan Dec 2017 #29
What we have here is a failure to communicate... califootman Dec 2017 #30
She was so outraged by Franken's behavior she put HER arm around him and hand on his shoulder... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #38
She Does Not Make Sense erpowers Dec 2017 #52
Not Groping To Me erpowers Dec 2017 #32
If it is the picture in the article that she's referencing Bettie Dec 2017 #59
"He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At uponit7771 Dec 2017 #34
I don't get this one... cbdo2007 Dec 2017 #44
Sort of like people touching a pregnant woman's stomach without permission wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #138
This woman sounds like a walking stereotype standingtall Dec 2017 #49
He put her hand on her waist? Nevernose Dec 2017 #50
Yes, she is describing what sounds like a normal hug for a photo op. LisaL Dec 2017 #55
Unfortunately, this article convinced me RandomAccess Dec 2017 #62
This thread answers the question of "why are the accusers anonymous" pretty decisively Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #63
SOUNDS LIKE? Its literally NOT Nevernose Dec 2017 #69
Because she said it was, and I believe women when they say they've been groped. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #70
That has never been the definition of groping. kcr Dec 2017 #73
Well, it is now. LisaL Dec 2017 #77
And apparently the number of accusations is the only thing that matters kcr Dec 2017 #78
We came up with that one too. LisaL Dec 2017 #80
Oh I think there's more than a little help kcr Dec 2017 #83
Falling on our own sword is what we do best. LisaL Dec 2017 #88
What matters to me is not the number of allegations, but the merit behind them. BlueStater Dec 2017 #101
Some are indeed basing their judgment on the number of allegations. kcr Dec 2017 #104
In what world is that groping? LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #122
A hand around the waist Nevernose Dec 2017 #129
I thought that Congressman Conyers should have resigned. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #136
There's at least one Franken accusation that's an obvious reich-wing lie wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #139
A hand around the waste is groping? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #91
Me too spooky3 Dec 2017 #99
He didn't grope her. He grabbed her around the waist for a picture Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #95
It's groping now. LisaL Dec 2017 #97
Yikes... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #117
It's like arguing over what constitutes a catch in the NFL Generic Brad Dec 2017 #125
It doesn't sound like a grope to me. juxtaposed Dec 2017 #121
I'm sorry, but she lost me at the "hand on my waist" part ecstatic Dec 2017 #123
SERIOUSLY?? THIS is "groping." This is BULLSHIT. Sheer and complete BULLSHIT!!! LBM20 Dec 2017 #128
+1, also said she wouldn't allow her husband to touch her that way?!? She said he squeezed twice,... uponit7771 Dec 2017 #130
Yeah, what's with her being hands-off to her own husband? mainer Dec 2017 #137
Now I know why you didn't put the "groping" part in your excerpt...because it's fake. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #131
She sounds like a delicate flower mainer Dec 2017 #133
Hypersensitivity and Ultra-Political Correctness is destroying us. It is just RIDICULOUS! LBM20 Dec 2017 #135
.99 center...DID YOU READ THIS ARTICLE? It's odd how YOU HAVE NOT RESPONDED once in your Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #145
Really...how interesting. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #150
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