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In reply to the discussion: What the Republicans will learn from the Franken debacle. [View all]LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)38. Thing is ...
HOW do we know that Independent or Democratic votes WILL be counted?
Oh I have NO doubt that IF the voting was fair, Dems would do WELL in the 2018 Mid-terms. But seeing as things are NOT fair. Those numbers in the black bolded below are DEMS voters being crosschecked or purged out of existence.
Crosscheck Removed 450K Voters in MI, 270 K in AZ and 590 K in NC!!
This is the start of of Greg Palasts story. The original is at www.gregpalast.com/ This is very, very likely why, in state after state, Hillary was up 150K votes before election day and lost: Her voters could not show up. They were already eliminated from the voter rolls. If proven true, this sounds like a classic Justice Department issue and needs to be resolved in real time. We must not repeat the mistakes of Florida 2000. (BTW, first post, three lines, was posted by Gbriel777 at this DKos link.)
Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.
Starting in 2013 just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOPcontrolled states.
The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
The GOPs Stealth War on Voters, 8/24/2016.
Crosscheck in action: Trump victory margin in Michigan:13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona:85,257 Arizona
Crosscheck purge list:270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008 North Carolina
Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including Caging, purging, blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to provisional ballots that will never be counted.
See www.GregPalast.com for more.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/14/1599330/-Crosscheck-Removed-450K-Voters-in-MI-270-K-in-AZ-and-590-K-in-NC
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There's this from Ari Berman:
Rigged: How Voter Suppression Threw Wisconsin to Trump.
And possibly handed him the whole election.
ARI BERMAN
NOVEMBER/DECEMBER 2017 ISSUE
You cant say Andrea Anthony didnt try. A 37-year-old African American woman with an infectious smile, Anthony had voted in every major election since she was 18. On November 8, 2016, she went to the Clinton Rose Senior Center, her polling site on the predominantly black north side of Milwaukee, to cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton. Voting is important to me because I know I have a little, teeny, tiny voice, but that is a way for it to be heard, she said. Even though its one vote, I feel it needs to count.
Shed lost her drivers license a few days earlier, but she came prepared with an expired Wisconsin state ID and proof of residency. A poll worker confirmed she was registered to vote at her current address. But this was Wisconsins first major election that required voterseven those who were already registeredto present a current drivers license, passport, or state or military ID to cast a ballot. Anthony couldnt, and so she wasnt able to vote.
The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerks office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day. But Anthony couldnt take time off from her job as an administrative assistant at a housing management company, and she had five kids and two grandkids to look after. For the first time in her life, her vote wasnt counted.
I met Anthony on a rainy Wednesday evening in mid-August. She had recently moved to Madison for a job making sales calls for the health insurance company Humana and was living in an Econo Lodge off the freeway with two of her kids and her mother-in-law as she looked for permanent housing. This particular election was very important to me, she told me in the motels small lobby, citing her strong aversion to Donald Trump. I felt like the right to vote was being stripped away from me.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/voter-suppression-wisconsin-election-2016/
Oh I have NO doubt that IF the voting was fair, Dems would do WELL in the 2018 Mid-terms. But seeing as things are NOT fair. Those numbers in the black bolded below are DEMS voters being crosschecked or purged out of existence.
Crosscheck Removed 450K Voters in MI, 270 K in AZ and 590 K in NC!!
This is the start of of Greg Palasts story. The original is at www.gregpalast.com/ This is very, very likely why, in state after state, Hillary was up 150K votes before election day and lost: Her voters could not show up. They were already eliminated from the voter rolls. If proven true, this sounds like a classic Justice Department issue and needs to be resolved in real time. We must not repeat the mistakes of Florida 2000. (BTW, first post, three lines, was posted by Gbriel777 at this DKos link.)
Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.
Starting in 2013 just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOPcontrolled states.
The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
The GOPs Stealth War on Voters, 8/24/2016.
Crosscheck in action: Trump victory margin in Michigan:13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona:85,257 Arizona
Crosscheck purge list:270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008 North Carolina
Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including Caging, purging, blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to provisional ballots that will never be counted.
See www.GregPalast.com for more.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/14/1599330/-Crosscheck-Removed-450K-Voters-in-MI-270-K-in-AZ-and-590-K-in-NC
****************************************************
There's this from Ari Berman:
Rigged: How Voter Suppression Threw Wisconsin to Trump.
And possibly handed him the whole election.
ARI BERMAN
NOVEMBER/DECEMBER 2017 ISSUE
You cant say Andrea Anthony didnt try. A 37-year-old African American woman with an infectious smile, Anthony had voted in every major election since she was 18. On November 8, 2016, she went to the Clinton Rose Senior Center, her polling site on the predominantly black north side of Milwaukee, to cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton. Voting is important to me because I know I have a little, teeny, tiny voice, but that is a way for it to be heard, she said. Even though its one vote, I feel it needs to count.
Shed lost her drivers license a few days earlier, but she came prepared with an expired Wisconsin state ID and proof of residency. A poll worker confirmed she was registered to vote at her current address. But this was Wisconsins first major election that required voterseven those who were already registeredto present a current drivers license, passport, or state or military ID to cast a ballot. Anthony couldnt, and so she wasnt able to vote.
The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerks office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day. But Anthony couldnt take time off from her job as an administrative assistant at a housing management company, and she had five kids and two grandkids to look after. For the first time in her life, her vote wasnt counted.
I met Anthony on a rainy Wednesday evening in mid-August. She had recently moved to Madison for a job making sales calls for the health insurance company Humana and was living in an Econo Lodge off the freeway with two of her kids and her mother-in-law as she looked for permanent housing. This particular election was very important to me, she told me in the motels small lobby, citing her strong aversion to Donald Trump. I felt like the right to vote was being stripped away from me.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/voter-suppression-wisconsin-election-2016/
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You can bank on it. Mueller is public enemy #1 for the Right. He can take Trump down
hadEnuf
Dec 2017
#33
Plus the fact that she is one to come out for Al to resign without an investigation.
old guy
Dec 2017
#24
Those under that delusion were asleep the last two decades and in a coma the last three years
Cosmocat
Dec 2017
#18
Its not about the other side... Hillary called them deplorables and that is the case
lancelyons
Dec 2017
#25
The other side (i.e. Republicans) don't play by the same rules. Watch, Roy Moore will win
Lanius
Dec 2017
#27
The swing voter will notice that Franken resigned, will assume he is guilty....
ollie10
Dec 2017
#34
Even though i dont think Franken got fair treatment, I do agree with the move.
lancelyons
Dec 2017
#23
So you are saying that by a Democrat resigning in disgrace, this is going to hurt the Republicans?
ollie10
Dec 2017
#30
The Republicans don't care, also they'll point the finger at Democratic support of Bill Clinton
Lanius
Dec 2017
#32
She would have been in the minority back then, IIRC. Most Dems still backed Clinton.
Lanius
Dec 2017
#40
Democrats arent doing this to get the GOP to like them. They are doing it for votes.
lancelyons
Dec 2017
#36
"With the Democrats going the high road, they can say now say that the GOP is the party of ...
LenaBaby61
Dec 2017
#43