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116. They got hoist by their own petard...

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:29 PM

Dec 2017

During the #MeToo surge, those on the left got caught up in the mindset that even questioning any allegations of sexual harassment or assault made by a woman against a man was tantamount to "blaming the victim," since, allegedly, no woman would ever lie about such a thing, and even suggesting the possibility of that was deeply sexist and misogynist. There was even a second hashtag for that: #BelieveAllWomen. The Democrats totally bought into that movement, little realizing how easily they could get played. Now, all it took was an allegation against a Democrat, and Party leaders were caught: they could either thrown one of their own under the bus, or, if they hesitated, they could be painted as hypocrites and, to the feminist faction of the left, enablers of "rape culture." Damned if you do, really damned if you don't. And it's going to be the gift that keeps on giving for Republicans -- because all they have to do is find someone willing to come forward with the slightest bit of boorishness in a Democrat's past, and we're right back on the carousel again.

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Panel on MSNBC: He was railroaded. [View all] madaboutharry Dec 2017 OP

let's fucking hope so ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #1

I was going to say Amen but Perseus Dec 2017 #84

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #130

I have to beg you to consider rephrasing. Mister Ed Dec 2017 #132

Thank you..Yes, please rephrase that whathehell Dec 2017 #148

This most certainly was excess janterry Dec 2017 #2

He knows he can still make a difference. defacto7 Dec 2017 #3

Who was the engineer? Stone, Gillibrand or Harris? Nm bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #4

I'd bet Schumer & Feinstein - they got their junior partners from NY and CA to spearhead his ouster FarCenter Dec 2017 #9

Gillibrand finally made a BIG name for herself. I have raised Alice11111 Dec 2017 #30

Yes. She showed very bad judgement. Jane Austin Dec 2017 #76

A friend sent me an email saying, she was always a Alice11111 Dec 2017 #93

Recently Gillibrand said that Bill Clinton should have resigned as president drray23 Dec 2017 #108

Oh yeah. She needs to switch parties. She probably Alice11111 Dec 2017 #113

Me thinks maybe she is a secret agent for the Repubs. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #114

I didn't pay much attention to her before spiderpig Dec 2017 #95

Sessions & someone above him Wwcd Dec 2017 #59

Go further to 1988, HW Bush ran Butterflylady Dec 2017 #67

And they're such filthy dirty tricks that even Roger Stone himself calls it "rat-fucking." calimary Dec 2017 #86

...& the Dems fell for it w Gillibrand leading the charge! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #96

Bernie Sanders Renew Deal Dec 2017 #90

Aaaagh! The voice of how women are treated! His is a damned hypocracy Wwcd Dec 2017 #99

i am very disappointed bernie fell for the rights bs but questionseverything Dec 2017 #139

His words, His thoughts. "Fiction" doesn't diminish its trigger-warning Wwcd Dec 2017 #149

lawd now we gotta lock up the authors that don't write pollyanna crap!!! questionseverything Dec 2017 #162

Rape ? Wwcd Dec 2017 #163

fiction? questionseverything Dec 2017 #164

The Democratic Party. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #152

Brokaw pointed out that Als constituents octoberlib Dec 2017 #5

Yeah, now we may get a Repub. Great for women with more Alice11111 Dec 2017 #31

And I bet it will be Michele Bachmann maryellen99 Dec 2017 #40

At least we can say that is never going to happen. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #45

I would not have believed it possible a year ago, but Alice11111 Dec 2017 #46

Nope.Gillibrand burned him at the stake w/o due process Alice11111 Dec 2017 #97

She will never get past the Primary. Wwcd Dec 2017 #100

Instead of raising $$ for her, it will be for her opponent, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #103

Dem opponent, that is. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #105

Me too, from Oregon! Kittycow Dec 2017 #127

I know. My heart is breaking, for Franken&, even more, the USA Alice11111 Dec 2017 #133

Hope it is Al Franken itsrobert Dec 2017 #128

Yes! Also, since the Gov of MN is appointing someone to Alice11111 Dec 2017 #134

I suggest Franken move to NY mchill Dec 2017 #109

Great idea! NY invited Hillary. NY could invite him. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #115

I want him to stay in his home state BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #125

This could backfire badly on the senate Dems. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #6

I think this will severely damage xxqqqzme Dec 2017 #50

I do too WyLoochka Dec 2017 #92

I hope Gillibrand goes down hard. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #94

Im having trouble BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #126

The 'Franken standard' earthside Dec 2017 #60

The problem is we're the ones who will pay for it. dflprincess Dec 2017 #72

If what I've seen the last 40 years holds true, it will misanthrope Dec 2017 #85

Yes he was...and the media ran with it Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #7

The Democratic Senators must have some other reason to railroad him. FarCenter Dec 2017 #8

It is completely irrational. They got caught up in a mob mentality The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #10

THIS DaDeacon Dec 2017 #22

Spot on, and the Repubs will contort it to define us, as Alice11111 Dec 2017 #49

perfect clip renate Dec 2017 #53

Mom mentality. Yes. That's it exactly. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #24

I'm sure the respectful Repub voters will yield to that. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #33

They got hoist by their own petard... regnaD kciN Dec 2017 #116

Yep. Liberal purity tests....so sick of that mindset. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #157

the panel said the Dems "just want to clear the mud" trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #17

Bringing up Trump's sex crimes didn't work in '16 Blaukraut Dec 2017 #44

Especially now that they can and will use this to say, "See, even the Dems admit Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2017 #68

Exactly, as long as you deny them, they didnt happen. wisteria Dec 2017 #79

Besides his being too liberal for establishment Democrats? nt dflprincess Dec 2017 #73

And I think you're exactly right. Schumer,Feinstein YOHABLO Dec 2017 #135

Power. Mechanisation. joshcryer Dec 2017 #153

I wish Democrats would be specific about sexual assault Fresh_Start Dec 2017 #11

You left out that Franken has grabbed breasts and asses mythology Dec 2017 #36

He denied it. So we are into the "he said/she said" (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #48

We really don't know that. avebury Dec 2017 #52

I hope Al holds out True Blue American Dec 2017 #146

Really? Egnever Dec 2017 #54

Has been accused of grabbing breasts and asses TiberiusB Dec 2017 #69

"Me too" doesn't count if you're anonymous. tomp Dec 2017 #129

I dont believe the women. wisteria Dec 2017 #80

Get your facts right. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #98

alledgedly ..you kind of forgot that part huh? questionseverything Dec 2017 #140

Exactly!!! One of these things is not like the other Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #55

Franken is a very smart guy.. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #12

I agree. There's something going on here we don't know about. Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #21

From my observations, "they" act like there is more to come mchill Dec 2017 #110

NOW they speak up about it -- RandomAccess Dec 2017 #13

Right! Now they turn on a dime eleny Dec 2017 #14

Exactly. deurbano Dec 2017 #62

He was railroaded. saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #15

Hope all gets some good payback. Nm bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #32

!!!!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #35

Ha! I bet they didn't count on this. kcr Dec 2017 #16

Where were these voices... quickesst Dec 2017 #18

No. That's a wish and a dream. He's been ousted. He can't function in the senate... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #19

They had the votes to expel him, and were going to do Alice11111 Dec 2017 #38

Bullshit, he can still vote. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #111

He'll probably cont. to vote until he leaves, yes. But it won't change his resignation. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #117

I stand with Al..... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #20

Me, too. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #136

Railroaded indeed. That's a FACT! And it's not just the fault of the GOP... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #23

Thanks talking heads but it's just a little fucking late for that analysis. jalan48 Dec 2017 #25

And all the people who railroaded him octoberlib Dec 2017 #26

I hope they feel very, very guilty about what they did. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #37

Well, they don't or they wouldnt have been still pushing it. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #41

I'm afraid you might be right. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #43

So instead of leftynyc Dec 2017 #27

Yes he was railroaded. Unfortunately, I do not think he will change his mind still_one Dec 2017 #28

He denied the charges on the Senate floor, and said he remembers others differently. Cattledog Dec 2017 #29

Tom Brokaw, Andrea Mitchell mean nothing to me elmac Dec 2017 #34

I'm not listening to Andrea Mitchell, Iliyah Dec 2017 #39

I think he has to resign now, BUT if there was a movement put together to try and encourage him to OnDoutside Dec 2017 #42

Nah...he'll resign. He doesn't need this WHACK JOB treatment from Dems.... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #47

... FarCenter Dec 2017 #58

Only against any of 18 of them (i.e. the male ones)... regnaD kciN Dec 2017 #118

Where was this panel the last few weeks? LisaM Dec 2017 #51

So insightful when it's too late... just like with Clinton. deurbano Dec 2017 #64

The Democratic High Ground.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #56

Yep, stuck and broken, but Repubs will like us more. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #101

Sad to say that none of Franken's lynch mob were Republicans..... ollie10 Dec 2017 #102

I know. Unbelievable. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #104

Of course, some would say none of the lynch mob were really Democrats.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #107

Repubs were screaming the usual false equivalencies, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #112

I saw that! 👍🏼 spanone Dec 2017 #57

Yep. They should be apologizing to him for the lynch Alice11111 Dec 2017 #106

Tom Brokaw and Andrea Mitchell DarthDem Dec 2017 #61

But it's true Franken was railroaded. rockfordfile Dec 2017 #88

I hope none of the 'accuser' Dems want any money from me Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #63

This is the kind of thing that used to happen with lynch mobs Jarqui Dec 2017 #65

You should repost this as an OP. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #66

"People are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty." regnaD kciN Dec 2017 #119

I told this story previously on here : Jarqui Dec 2017 #124

Remember negoldie Dec 2017 #155

This is the party that brought us Jarqui Dec 2017 #156

Can someone explain to me jeaps Dec 2017 #70

That's what Trump and Moore supporters said loyalsister Dec 2017 #71

ridiculous questionseverything Dec 2017 #141

Supporters came out to support their guy loyalsister Dec 2017 #144

there is more than enough known to make a judgement questionseverything Dec 2017 #145

My post was about the way supporters use the same formula loyalsister Dec 2017 #147

actually to be accurate your first line should read SOME supporters questionseverything Dec 2017 #161

Wow. when even the MSM says that...it tells you something is up. yurbud Dec 2017 #74

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2017 #75

Dems haven't looked this gullible and hysterical for quite awhile. It's not a good look. n/t MrModerate Dec 2017 #77

Other than him being a well-liked liberal Ztolkins Dec 2017 #78

i don't believe the woman because their stories make no sense questionseverything Dec 2017 #142

My take bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #81

There is no upper hand tapermaker Dec 2017 #83

Alabama's senate race is a foregone conclusion and always has been misanthrope Dec 2017 #89

How nice of them to wait til now to speak out Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 #82

They don't want the Resistance Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #87

I'm so f'ing mad that Al has to resign sweetroxie Dec 2017 #91

So were these the marching orders of the DNC? Mr. Ected Dec 2017 #120

Franken "said he would resign in the coming weeks" Yes, that's the sliver of hope I interpreted too stuffmatters Dec 2017 #121

Hope what you say is right. zentrum Dec 2017 #122

At least 2 dozen of them have Presidential ambitions. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #123

they have shown they have no judgement ,no fight in them questionseverything Dec 2017 #143

franken is another trophy on limbaugh's wall, maybe next to anita hill certainot Dec 2017 #131

Where are all our 'Franken should resign" people today... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #137

Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #138

This is what I've been saying ... he has NOT resigned.. he simply said he WILL resign secondwind Dec 2017 #150

They can rot. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #151

These accusations sure seem spurious. I mean, the more we're hearing, the less PatrickforO Dec 2017 #154

No matter it's DownriverDem Dec 2017 #158

Kangaroo court lynch mob workinclasszero Dec 2017 #159

Yes Franken was railroaded Gothmog Dec 2017 #160