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joshcryer

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10. Franken was sacrificed for the chance to win Alabama.

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:25 AM

Dec 2017

It was a political calculation that if Franken didn't resign, the Democrats would not own the narrative. Now the Democrats take the high ground, Franken takes the sword, and Alabama isn't about "Franken refuses to step down" it's about "Moore is a pervert."

This is not common sense as Alabama isn't that big of a prize. However, if you think long term, 2018, we have two southern states and gaining more requires a total house cleaning, especially if we're going to go with the virtue signaling that is increasingly prominent in our society.

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We are seeing the death of common sense and intelligent reasoning. [View all] tavernier Dec 2017 OP

I think as Nance Greggs said: Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #1

Ditto iluvtennis Dec 2017 #16

Exactly.. FarPoint Dec 2017 #29

Your principle applies to Roy Moore as well, doesn't it? brooklynite Dec 2017 #2

Yes hurple Dec 2017 #3

Hard evidence has been presented in only one case...and not the 14-YO sexual assault. brooklynite Dec 2017 #5

Has Moore been charged with anything? LisaL Dec 2017 #26

Has Franken been charged with anything? brooklynite Dec 2017 #30

Who says I don't? LisaL Dec 2017 #33

They do. hurple Dec 2017 #42

I'd have had no problem giving him an ethics investigation either, if he'd wanted one. kcr Dec 2017 #4

"I imagine most of the time guilty parties are going to choose to step down" ... SFnomad Dec 2017 #24

Being technically correct doesn't make you right. kcr Dec 2017 #37

I'm not "technically" correct ... I'm correct and you know it. SFnomad Dec 2017 #41

Interesting that you find both cases similar. tavernier Dec 2017 #6

"innocent until proved guilty" (your demand) is not dependent on the severity of the charges. brooklynite Dec 2017 #8

"I believe some of the accusers of Al Franken are credible". Which? And, why do you believe that Atticus Dec 2017 #13

franken is accused of a kiss and a couple squeezes questionseverything Dec 2017 #19

OK, now you are defending Roy Moore? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #46

"Common" sense and intelligent reasoning has ALWAYS been confined to a small minority of humans. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #7

This / / mindem Dec 2017 #34

We created a narrative we couldn't escape from Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #9

Exactly... regnaD kciN Dec 2017 #12

Franken was sacrificed for the chance to win Alabama. joshcryer Dec 2017 #10

democrats will never own the narrative. they will come up with something else to replace the emails JI7 Dec 2017 #22

Indeed. The #metoo movement will be tired out by 2018. joshcryer Dec 2017 #23

it's a stupid calculation Locrian Dec 2017 #31

As a woman... I'm sensing Emily's List. cbreezen Dec 2017 #11

I cant wait to turn the leadership of the party TheDemsshouldhireme Dec 2017 #15

This Franken thing has a Salem witch trial vibe. TheDemsshouldhireme Dec 2017 #14

Agreed Leighbythesea Dec 2017 #17

Culture of greed moondust Dec 2017 #18

We should also consider the WHOLE record... flor-de-jasmim Dec 2017 #20

The deepest cut is that his colleagues knew all of that tavernier Dec 2017 #25

Not for nothing Cosmocat Dec 2017 #21

Your're right, but the media experts know appeals to emotion are much more powerful FarCenter Dec 2017 #27

Innocent until proven guilty should have no place NCTraveler Dec 2017 #28

Should have no place? LisaL Dec 2017 #32

I made the case for no such thing. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #35

Satanic ritual abuse matt819 Dec 2017 #36

I agree with you totally, BUT GaryCnf Dec 2017 #38

I did, tavernier Dec 2017 #40

. . . GaryCnf Dec 2017 #43

Well said I'm so amazed at the level of stupidity Rene Dec 2017 #39

Franken has not been dragged out of the Senate Progressive dog Dec 2017 #44

Not trying to be rude, but I have been hearing this announcement for over 16 years. IT"S ALREADY DemRage Dec 2017 #45