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NewJeffCT

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19. I was very impressed by her early on in her Senate career

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:45 AM

Dec 2017

She had a reputation as a centrist in the House, but ran as a progressive for the Senate and won. And, early on in her career, she was one of the small handful of Democrats that did not rush to condemn and defund ACORN and that had caught my eye. In the Senate, the vote was something like 89-6 to defund ACORN with a Democratic majority, and she was one of the six.

I think she also voted "no" on more Trump cabinet nominees than anybody else in the Senate - Franken, Sanders, Merkley, Brown, etc, included.

So, I'm surprised at her rush to judgment here with Franken, and also her condemning Bill Clinton. If she aspires to be president, turning off parts of the base where Franken and Clinton are popular is not a wise decision.

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Kirsten Gillibrands Moment Has Arrived [View all] Renew Deal Dec 2017 OP

Not a fan Vidal Dec 2017 #1

Its better to know than to think Renew Deal Dec 2017 #5

Totally agree with you. Did she pen this article? jrthin Dec 2017 #8

+1000000000000 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #33

+1 krawhitham Dec 2017 #87

How about: moderate conservative, progressive-lite, opportunist? Hortensis Dec 2017 #89

Great response. In other words, it doesn't come naturally to her. octoberlib Dec 2017 #94

It seemed notable that it took into her 40s, when needing Hortensis Dec 2017 #96

Gillibrand is an opportunist of the first degree!! NYgal Dec 2017 #104

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #105

I can see having a huge problem with that, all right. Hortensis Dec 2017 #108

welcome to DU gopiscrap Dec 2017 #119

You said it! Jane Austin Dec 2017 #103

So... is there an acceptable number of sex offenders in the Senate? ck4829 Dec 2017 #2

Really? You equate Roy Moore with anonymous women who asked for pictures? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #31

Moore is a child molester Franken is not..... stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #40

There is no circumstance that would make me avebury Dec 2017 #3

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #7

That's the problem. The more we learn about her, jrthin Dec 2017 #11

I have learned enough to know she will destroy the party. JimBeard Dec 2017 #15

lol Renew Deal Dec 2017 #16

But..but.. workinclasszero Dec 2017 #71

HORRIBLY TRUE JimBeard Dec 2017 #97

I think that's going a little far... but, she does deserve closer scrutiny InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #79

What have I learned about the Democratic Party? avebury Dec 2017 #22

If we go by 'due process' sabbat hunter Dec 2017 #86

But Roger Stone is not playing the Lee Atwater dirty tricks avebury Dec 2017 #93

If she all there is, I'd probably vote for her. But as my Senator, jrthin Dec 2017 #14

Well, in the primaries obviously there's no way I'm voting for her Johonny Dec 2017 #24

Unfortunately, I think that if Trump decides he avebury Dec 2017 #32

He's not going to be exciting crowds for long rainin Dec 2017 #55

I agree disndat Dec 2017 #42

So if she were the nominee vs Trump in 20 Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #98

The TLDR vi5 Dec 2017 #4

She stood up against harassment and assault before it was fashionable Renew Deal Dec 2017 #9

And then destroyed it by becoming a zealot Egnever Dec 2017 #17

Except as the article points out... vi5 Dec 2017 #21

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #51

But she failed to realize that not every complaint will be a valid complaint. avebury Dec 2017 #29

She still could stand against those things, without abandoning other principles like due process. Demit Dec 2017 #48

Ahhh...she was a blue dog congressperson before she opportunistically took Clinton... brush Dec 2017 #58

But she was our only choice to be able to win!!! vi5 Dec 2017 #66

I'm trying to get with your post. Sarcasm, yes? NY is not a red state, and Hillary already had... brush Dec 2017 #67

Sorry, I forgot to add the sarcasm... vi5 Dec 2017 #69

she is now dead to me...fell for GOP machinations with Franken situation. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #73

she fell for repuke dirty tricks Skittles Dec 2017 #106

She took the cash raised by the Party & Clintons & stabbed them both in the back. Wwcd Dec 2017 #6

What revolution? Renew Deal Dec 2017 #10

All hail the next leader of the inquisition Egnever Dec 2017 #12

I luv this thread. Nt BootinUp Dec 2017 #75

The comments...wow. An ugly underbelly has been exposed here over the past couple of days. LexVegas Dec 2017 #13

"Damned uppity wimmen-folk need to keep their traps shut!!" bullwinkle428 Dec 2017 #18

Accusers must be interrogated! No anonymity for victims! nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #20

And anyone accused must automatically be guilty! bench scientist Dec 2017 #30

It is what happened during the Viet Nam war protests. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #53

Nothing new. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #56

Big surprise bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #36

Youll be alright, I promise. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #46

I agree. I have been shocked by so many not wanting to do the right thing. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #52

I was very impressed by her early on in her Senate career NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #19

She can always go back to working as a corporate attorney defending big tobacco. jalan48 Dec 2017 #23

If corporate work defending Walmart didn't bother you Renew Deal Dec 2017 #28

Yep nothing says I'm a Democrat like supporting a union bashing company. jalan48 Dec 2017 #35

Until she goes after Trump as zealously as she went after Al Franken, I'm just irritated at her atm Arazi Dec 2017 #25

Here you go Renew Deal Dec 2017 #37

Sorry. Not enough. Press conferences, multiple interviews, op eds, Twitter Arazi Dec 2017 #43

Yeah when is Trump resigning? workinclasszero Dec 2017 #38

No, its not. Its Kamala Harris time. octoberlib Dec 2017 #26

Let's see her go after Roy Moore and trump with even half the energy she applied..... Paladin Dec 2017 #27

This! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #34

Here you go Renew Deal Dec 2017 #39

Senator Pedo Moore workinclasszero Dec 2017 #41

She'll viciously cut in front of him in the cookie line at his welcome reception hatrack Dec 2017 #45

Yeah that will show him! workinclasszero Dec 2017 #77

haha woolldog Dec 2017 #110

She sure found... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #44

I cant wait to not vote for her in the primary. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #47

Politico - the same site that published the anonymous accusations dalton99a Dec 2017 #49

Yep, I noticed that as well. DC really is a sleazy town. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #50

I am always suspicious of supposedly left leaning organizations with deep pockets nolabels Dec 2017 #60

I'd stand with Gillibrand any day of the week. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #54

She made no effort rainin Dec 2017 #57

I don't think there is such a thing as a "Clinton Democrat". LisaM Dec 2017 #59

Oh sure there is zipplewrath Dec 2017 #62

They've worked hard for a lot of candidates. LisaM Dec 2017 #64

Sorta zipplewrath Dec 2017 #65

If this is "her moment" Bettie Dec 2017 #61

Perhaps, but it will probably backfire on her. MineralMan Dec 2017 #63

+1, KGOP has a year to gen up hypocrisy for those who supported the outing of Franken based off of uponit7771 Dec 2017 #68

Same publication that broke the anonymous story that prompted her tweet. kcr Dec 2017 #70

Not a fan Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #72

+1 jalan48 Dec 2017 #74

One way of eliminating potential competitors delisen Dec 2017 #76

Yep...but she eliminated herself in my eyes. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #78

My opinion of her has plummeted. delisen Dec 2017 #82

I used to like her. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #84

I wonder how many people are upset with GaryCnf Dec 2017 #80

Nobody gives a crap about WJC resigning BootinUp Dec 2017 #81

Certainly is helpful GaryCnf Dec 2017 #85

Which version of history do u subscribe to BootinUp Dec 2017 #88

And gone😡 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #83

I would not trust her to appoint Judges. Dawson Leery Dec 2017 #90

No. tenderfoot Dec 2017 #91

I laughed as I read this article w/ its imagery of Gillibrand being some kind of Trailblazer & Pachamama Dec 2017 #92

Arrived and departed. She failed the test. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #95

Things are not that good for Heilderbren (on purpose) JimBeard Dec 2017 #99

Never liked her Meowmee Dec 2017 #100

Shes an opportunist. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #101

So she has worked in the wilderness working to have Blue_true Dec 2017 #107

She defended a corporation who is responsible for killing millions and she took Clinton onecaliberal Dec 2017 #111

She was a young lawyer in a big firm. My guess is she had little choice Blue_true Dec 2017 #116

Poor thing working in a law firm, shes the one exercising moral superiority now that the folks onecaliberal Dec 2017 #117

She has a standard on sexual assault and she is sticking with it. Blue_true Dec 2017 #118

Opportunist, nothing less awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #102

As Charles Pierce said: There's no moral high ground'. GoneOffShore Dec 2017 #109

Gillibrand is not the problem. Trump is. Do not be divided and conquered. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #112

She led the calls to pressure Franken to resign and franken is one of the JI7 Dec 2017 #113

When we start playing "good Dem/bad Dem" we are not being productive. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #114

Tell that to gillibrand. JI7 Dec 2017 #115