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244. Exactly, and this needs to be brought up to her nonstop. She took help and support

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:52 PM

Dec 2017

from the Clintons. So by her own standards, she should resign now that she cannot abide anyone who has ever been accused, whether or not they are guilty -- just the accusations. She should stand by her new principles and resign.

Giver her seat back to Hillary!

I am dead serious about that and I've seen agreement about it here. Hillary was a great Senator from New York and she should run for her seat back. There is no excuse for this hyper-accusational environment when we already got hosed during the election. Franken was far more valuable in the Senate than Gillibrand, who is just stepping on people to make a name for herself. Support Democrats! Don't throw them away to create a brand for yourself. She has also made a mockery of real victims by letting this extreme gossip pass for "accusations." Her judgment is appallingly bad. I am still in shock over this treacherous treatment of a valuable Senator.

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Gillibrand, Harris, Perez, Warren, Sanders and the rest [View all] lunamagica Dec 2017 OP

Im with you, lunamagica. Polly Hennessey Dec 2017 #1

Thank you, Polly lunamagica Dec 2017 #2

Any room left on that bench? sarge43 Dec 2017 #42

*This* ananda Dec 2017 #144

Please! The more the merrier. And they will bitterly regret what they did today lunamagica Dec 2017 #178

Yes they will sarge43 Dec 2017 #180

It's a sad day for Democrats. ChiTownDenny Dec 2017 #80

Won't happen. You watch. lark Dec 2017 #116

That is how I feel. ananda Dec 2017 #145

I will send $$ to any Dem who primaries her. lark Dec 2017 #158

I agree Rene Dec 2017 #204

So far only Bernie Sanders has called for Trump's resignation Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #131

No he is not the only one. Maybe the only one that made the news headline. Wwcd Dec 2017 #134

Who else has? Bettie Dec 2017 #241

Good for Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #156

The GOP/deplorables only care about winning & power bigbrother05 Dec 2017 #164

Me too! So stinking mad at Gillibrand, Warren and the lot! MojoWrkn Dec 2017 #195

1000pc w u 2, Lunamagica Alice11111 Dec 2017 #234

Your second paragraph is pure gold tavernier Dec 2017 #237

Thank you, I will consider it. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #243

Good luck getting people to knock on doors for Democratic campaigns in Minnesota. Nt lostnfound Dec 2017 #3

Really, what a way to motivate voters! Can you imagine how those who lunamagica Dec 2017 #23

I dont have to imagine, I was one of them. lostnfound Dec 2017 #28

Lostnfound, I'm sorry. I meant to type Franken. I'm sorry for the mistake lunamagica Dec 2017 #33

Since the rumors are that bernie leftynyc Dec 2017 #34

MN socialist progressive were already seating Elleson before the last 2 accusers Wwcd Dec 2017 #58

I like Ellison, he's my rep, but I doubt very much he'll end up with Al's senate seat. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #109

Vultures Is The Word Me. Dec 2017 #140

Best not to put words in my mouth lostnfound Dec 2017 #95

I expect Bernie to be "pure" on policy. When it comes to other politicians... yurbud Dec 2017 #102

+ Wwcd Dec 2017 #117

Can you imagine how those who View profile knocked the doors for Senator Sanders feel now? LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #52

They have been disenfranchised, along with millions of Minnesotans ollie10 Dec 2017 #73

I'm with you, too. scarletwoman Dec 2017 #4

It's the same feeling I had on election day, but perhaps even worse, because lunamagica Dec 2017 #26

This is far worse then election day. avebury Dec 2017 #64

It's a sad day to be sure... though not ready to say it's WORSE than election day. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #162

Very discouraging times WyLoochka Dec 2017 #191

A lesson in political expediency 101. I had certainly hoped for better justhanginon Dec 2017 #5

ICAM. They all can kiss any aspirations for a presidential run goodbye lunamagica Dec 2017 #27

This especially hurts because I really used to like Sanders. lark Dec 2017 #121

MB this what Al's colleagues brought forth will sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #132

I think they thought they were taking the weapon away??????? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #6

I'd find that kind of reasoning bizarre. Dems are now more vulnerable than ever lunamagica Dec 2017 #38

They need to tell us their reasoning. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #44

I don't think we'll get anything more than "we're better than they are". That'a all they have lunamagica Dec 2017 #67

Then our leadership is letting us down. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #68

All those named are seen as potential 2020 candidates. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #7

It will come back to bite them even worse than previous similar mistakes made by Democrats. appal_jack Dec 2017 #11

I got to get out of this place. lark Dec 2017 #127

You'll have to do it while you're fairly young Plucketeer Dec 2017 #148

I have lived in the Azores. peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #213

I agree. He was too strong to cleanly beat by some lunamagica Dec 2017 #43

All 38 of them ? MichMan Dec 2017 #209

Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #8

I doubt it lunamagica Dec 2017 #184

I highly doubt they are happy... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #9

I don't think they're at all happy sammythecat Dec 2017 #91

Opened special mail from Daily Kos and saw Al's message. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #126

I'm with you Lunamagica! I am disgusted with the aforementioned cornball 24 Dec 2017 #10

Thank you cornball. Gillibrand accepted endorsements and support from the Clintons lunamagica Dec 2017 #167

Exactly, and this needs to be brought up to her nonstop. She took help and support R B Garr Dec 2017 #244

no would would i alert. i agree with you kiddo. shocking. who will the gop's go after next? trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #12

Certainly not a Republican world wide wally Dec 2017 #40

Thank you trueblue. I wonder if they are starting to see how this may come lunamagica Dec 2017 #46

Luna ..... i hope none of this comes back to haunt us Democrats. trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #53

I hope not, but I feel we're more vulnerable than ever lunamagica Dec 2017 #79

It was a setup and Franken was in on it Renew Deal Dec 2017 #13

But...the high ground! Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2017 #14

That would have happened regardless of letting him live Renew Deal Dec 2017 #19

That gif.... vi5 Dec 2017 #62

Thanks! Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2017 #115

Yes, that gif says it all. Great job! lunamagica Dec 2017 #169

I know! We lose, lose lose, but we're superior! lunamagica Dec 2017 #168

I agree. It will be interesting to see who's railroaded and smeared next. Will it be... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #15

Who knows if one of them will be next, Jackie. But after opening Pandora's box, their lunamagica Dec 2017 #174

It's time for someone other than a DEMOCRAT to take a fall. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #185

Sad, but true - every word of it. sandensea Dec 2017 #16

That is so true, Sandandsea, so true lunamagica Dec 2017 #175

No alerting Meowmee Dec 2017 #17

Yes, I'm more scared now than ever...feel more alone lunamagica Dec 2017 #179

Youre not alone Meowmee Dec 2017 #187

I with you UT_democrat Dec 2017 #18

I agree. Nothing good will come out of this lunamagica Dec 2017 #181

Yes, they are satisfied. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #20

I have no doubt that was a major motivation. Notice how many of them have lunamagica Dec 2017 #186

Yep, I noticed that. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #208

I want those with presidential ambitions to take one for the team delisen Dec 2017 #212

I am with you Bettie Dec 2017 #21

It will be interesting to see how they react when (not IF. It is WHEN) it happens to them lunamagica Dec 2017 #205

ZERO support from me for any of them. GUILTY as charged no matter how ridiculous.... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #22

Two of them are MY Democratic Senators. Murray and Cantwell. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #39

Agree ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #48

Maxine is not a Senator so she wouldn't be on this list. sdfernando Dec 2017 #97

You are correct, I'm so upset I don't know what I'm thinking ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #182

They should know better. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #82

two are MY senators orleans Dec 2017 #85

Shame on them all. Owl Dec 2017 #151

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #24

Call me old school...but I prefer to call it Swiftboated. unitedwethrive Dec 2017 #25

this G_j Dec 2017 #89

You are correct. That's what it was, and no, Dems never learn lunamagica Dec 2017 #189

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #238

Dont ya all feel united? LakeArenal Dec 2017 #29

I feel even sicker today. I feel betrayed lunamagica Dec 2017 #197

Absolutely. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #202

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I just don't get why they rushed into this. They should have pursued an investigation lunamagica Dec 2017 #199

It wont be a week before they target another. libtodeath Dec 2017 #31

I also wondered how long it will take them to attack again. old guy Dec 2017 #86

Right after the pedo wins. libtodeath Dec 2017 #90

Right on. old guy Dec 2017 #96

Yep Meowmee Dec 2017 #98

The Dem leadership has provided them with all the ammo they need lunamagica Dec 2017 #219

No one said that being the adults in the room would be easy elmac Dec 2017 #32

Our weakness is that we do their dirty work for them. n/t Beartracks Dec 2017 #70

and we didn't go after bush & cheney for war crimes elmac Dec 2017 #92

Our wearkes is spinless leadership lunamagica Dec 2017 #220

PLUS at least 1,000 times! maddiemom Dec 2017 #35

Thank you Maddiemom lunamagica Dec 2017 #200

I guess that the only voters that matter are "the people of Alabama" who will make their choice world wide wally Dec 2017 #36

And the tragedy is that the choice was taken away by the Dem leadership lunamagica Dec 2017 #221

I hope none of them think for a minute PatSeg Dec 2017 #37

It is OVER for them lunamagica Dec 2017 #222

The Reich Wing will weaponize allegations. kairos12 Dec 2017 #41

And it was the Dems who armed them lunamagica Dec 2017 #223

I'm with you, too. LisaM Dec 2017 #45

THank you LisaM. I also wonder lunamagica Dec 2017 #224

Disillusioned Cjas Dec 2017 #47

Gillibrand is dead to me, no matter what she says from now on lunamagica Dec 2017 #225

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Dems need new leaders with guts. democratisphere Dec 2017 #50

Feels no different than when they voted for the Iraq War Resoultion. The_Casual_Observer Dec 2017 #51

Gillibrand's reasoning for calling for Franken to resign Wwcd Dec 2017 #54

She Meowmee Dec 2017 #75

IKR! What the f happened to her. Or has she finally been given the opportunity to Wwcd Dec 2017 #78

I dont know Meowmee Dec 2017 #87

Hmm.. makes me suspicious why she is suddenly being media'd as a front runner in 2020. Wwcd Dec 2017 #99

Yep Meowmee Dec 2017 #107

Yes, there was that also. Backstabbed a few great Dem voices while happily taking the Dems support Wwcd Dec 2017 #120

why doesn't she just say it? ollie10 Dec 2017 #76

Her run for Pres is what I read most often on twitter comments, last night. Wwcd Dec 2017 #83

LOL, so since we cannot do a perfect job, lets just dismiss him! Brilliant! n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #170

Seriously? And this was a strong presidential contender? lunamagica Dec 2017 #176

she needs to become a republican Skittles Dec 2017 #196

I'm with you all the way. I am changing status to Independent leftofcool Dec 2017 #55

Gillibrand needs to be the 1st to change her status. Wwcd Dec 2017 #122

I think the party will lose many members over this. This is NOT the way to win elections lunamagica Dec 2017 #218

Purity politics strikes the Democratic Party again. Efilroft Sul Dec 2017 #56

Thanks for demanding 'purity' throughout 2016 you fools. Wwcd Dec 2017 #63

Yep Me. Dec 2017 #149

I'm startyng to hate that word...purity lunamagica Dec 2017 #226

The late Bartcop would've had a field day with this event. Efilroft Sul Dec 2017 #239

I sent emails to all the female senators xxqqqzme Dec 2017 #57

Thank you for doing that. They need to know how this is hurting us lunamagica Dec 2017 #203

Hear hear! defacto7 Dec 2017 #59

Thank you, Defacto lunamagica Dec 2017 #227

What jury would vote to hide? Ligyron Dec 2017 #60

Yes they did. And we will be the ones paying for it lunamagica Dec 2017 #228

Well, it's not going to work against customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #61

... LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #65

I said something similar on another post and it was taken down. SansACause Dec 2017 #66

Half the hides are usually ridiculous anyway. 7962 Dec 2017 #106

Ditto Rocky888 Dec 2017 #69

And we Democrats look like a bunch of saps again. It's even more disappointing because women catbyte Dec 2017 #71

Gillibrand once touched my hand without permission hurple Dec 2017 #72

Oh really? I heard she whistled at my wife!!! ollie10 Dec 2017 #74

Plenty of Meowmee Dec 2017 #77

Yes, by all means Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #84

Yes hurple Dec 2017 #129

Throwing out due process is not taking sexual harrasment seriously it is making a mockery of it. Egnever Dec 2017 #173

But did he squeeze... traladeda Dec 2017 #215

I wont alert SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #81

MN GOP is talking of resurrecting Michele Bachmann riverwalker Dec 2017 #88

I with you! I agree. mountain grammy Dec 2017 #93

Waiting for them to now attack Trump, Moore, Farenthold... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #94

Dont hold your breath Meowmee Dec 2017 #101

We have TAKEN AWAY a weapon from the GOP! Blue Streak Science Dec 2017 #100

that would sound good if Dems didn't have a long history of throwing people under the bus yurbud Dec 2017 #103

Integrity matters Blue Streak Science Dec 2017 #105

Integrity is making sure someone is guilty and whether this is the right remedy first yurbud Dec 2017 #110

frankly, no one cares about process issues: they care about outcomes yurbud Dec 2017 #112

And Republicans get to decide on the fate of millions of the poorest and most vulnerable lunamagica Dec 2017 #207

Good luck with that. We will see how that plays out when Moore, Farenthold and Trump are still Thor_MN Dec 2017 #114

I agree with you Sienna86 Dec 2017 #118

Well gosh we sure showed 'em huh? Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #154

Republicans win treestar Dec 2017 #163

Oh FFS!!!!! Trump has done 100x worse. Wow, how can you be so confused? n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #171

So you approve of someone being thrown under the bus without due process? lunamagica Dec 2017 #188

Semms to me more like we have GIVEN a weapon to the Republicans DFW Dec 2017 #210

I think they may be counting their blue wave chickens a bit early yurbud Dec 2017 #104

They can all go and fuck themselves, the chickenshits don't call out the monster in the White House! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #108

Bernie has numerous times, and again today... let's hope the rest follow his lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #159

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2017 #111

I am with you 100% lark Dec 2017 #113

I have gleaned one good thing from this. colorado_ufo Dec 2017 #119

Like a punch to the gut Juliusseizure Dec 2017 #123

They did this due to some inside mob mentality that has people like Gillibrand flamingdem Dec 2017 #137

what point is there to finding smarter leaders? questionseverything Dec 2017 #206

Oh, I Agree. wisteria Dec 2017 #124

I'm with you. And I'm in the market for a new party. (nt) Paladin Dec 2017 #125

Then join the repubs DownriverDem Dec 2017 #130

YOU wake up. What we currently have is a ONE PARTY system. Paladin Dec 2017 #133

Come on DownriverDem Dec 2017 #161

It's clear you don't get it DownriverDem Dec 2017 #128

Please explain if you don't mind awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #139

Are you serious? mac56 Dec 2017 #141

Where are these same Senators asking for Trump to resign? Sanders sort of did rockfordfile Dec 2017 #150

WOW, ok then explain it to us. n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #172

Playing hard ball against their own party. Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #192

Please, enlighten me lunamagica Dec 2017 #201

lunamagica 110liberal Dec 2017 #135

Thank you, 110liberal lunamagica Dec 2017 #230

Are they screaming for Donald's head now? Otherwise what was the point of that? bettyellen Dec 2017 #136

We need a plan. I don't have a big one, but the first thing to do is target the Dem heads. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #138

I was already threatened and reported for my similar thread SJMULE Dec 2017 #142

I'm crying now! ananda Dec 2017 #143

It is. My eyes are still red from crying lunamagica Dec 2017 #231

What really galls me is those that are calling this the "moral high ground" markpkessinger Dec 2017 #146

Mine too. I will NEVER vote for her again. rainlillie Dec 2017 #153

I agree with you DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #147

Democrats were played.. rainlillie Dec 2017 #152

I don't care anymore, either, lunamagica... dchill Dec 2017 #155

Bannon must be having a partry tonight, dchill lunamagica Dec 2017 #232

So disgusted by the Democratic party kimbutgar Dec 2017 #157

It will be ironic if it turns out to be treestar Dec 2017 #160

K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #165

This is What You Want, This is What You Get Dalton Mac Dec 2017 #166

At least Bernie had the nerve to call for Trump to resigb Thrill Dec 2017 #177

It was Rep Jackie Speier who got this ball underthematrix Dec 2017 #183

I just called one of their offices and let them have it. Goody two shoes! They mfcorey1 Dec 2017 #190

No cares to give anymore.... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #193

As Joan Walsh said today zentrum Dec 2017 #194

Do you all feel purified now you've sent someone else off to be sacrificed? n/t MrModerate Dec 2017 #198

Some jumped off the rust belt white male appreciation train delisen Dec 2017 #211

THere are a lot of posts that would need to be alerted today and yesterday. How can one not Amaryllis Dec 2017 #214

Glad my Senators stayed out of it RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #216

what is tragic is that I will probably have to vote one of these people in 2020 DonCoquixote Dec 2017 #217

What's the killer here is that we presumed that the Democratic senators OnDoutside Dec 2017 #229

i never imagined it was them collectively we have to fight questionseverything Dec 2017 #233

They have gone after Warren already pretty hard with the Pocahontas racist slurs, and when still_one Dec 2017 #235

I think you are right. peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #242

I hear you and agree with the sentiment completely. Tipperary Dec 2017 #236

Im keeping this list of senators peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #240

You called it right...mob rule, lynch party, kangaroo court, star chamber. workinclasszero Dec 2017 #245