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DemocratSinceBirth

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57. Weiner is an awful guy who embarrassed our party. I implied that from the jump.

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:22 PM

Dec 2017

I was just using him as an example of someone trying to rebuild a political career. I don't believe Franken is a bad guy. I do believe he gave his opponents a cudgel and they were only too happy to use it on him. The Democrats are trying to clear the deck to go after Moore and they didn't want any distractions. Franken got caught up in the maelstrom.

I don't know what the proper disposition should have been. That's above my pay grade. I do know the argument that we (Democrats) asked a prominent senator of our own party to resign over relatively minor sexual transgressions while the GOP seats a child rapist is a strong argument going into the mid terms.

Short story, in any other environment Franken likely survives.

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Human Sacrifice Returns to the Americas [View all] MineralMan Dec 2017 OP

Kinda reminds me of Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" dalton99a Dec 2017 #1

The whole thing reminds me of David Mamet's movie, "Oleanna" MineralMan Dec 2017 #2

The one with Michele Pfieffer? Based on a true story of woman who killed hubby? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #28

I think you're thinking of "White Oleander." MineralMan Dec 2017 #30

Oh. Good. 'Cause I was having trouble relating that movie to this situation. ??? LOL nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #48

They sound similar, for sure. MineralMan Dec 2017 #51

Your analogy is perfect peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #3

He probably thought that these were his friends. colorado_ufo Dec 2017 #72

Yes, his heart, ours, and our party's...lost respect. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #73

They threw humans into volcanoes to help plug the hole so it didn't erupt snooper2 Dec 2017 #4

...and by "human sacrifice", you mean: A senator decided to voluntarily resign? brooklynite Dec 2017 #5

For an act to be truly voluntary, one must have agency. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2017 #6

So did some of the human sacrifices of the old days. MineralMan Dec 2017 #8

You really think it was voluntary? kirby Dec 2017 #19

my firm is representing somebody who "resigned voluntary" Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #68

Hi! n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #27

Yeah...that's the story the guilty are trying to fly. Doesn't wash. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #29

I was shocked Alliepoo Dec 2017 #47

you're not getting metaphors today treestar Dec 2017 #74

Ravenous political gods and sacrifice? This hyperbole is ridiculous. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #7

Is it? OK...as you will... MineralMan Dec 2017 #9

Al Franken will continue to live a better life, financially, than 99% of the posters on this board. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #12

No doubt. I suspect, though, that Franken will not seek office again. MineralMan Dec 2017 #13

It worked out until it didn't. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #16

I think his political career is over, but because he will choose MineralMan Dec 2017 #18

Mayor. How does that help women's wages in the country? Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #32

"You don't seem to know much about Franken." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #38

No, Weiner's issue was that he sent pics of his willie NONCONSENSUALLY...he was kicked out of Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #40

If he sent photos of his genitalia DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #45

That's exactly what he did. You don't remember? That's how it got out.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #49

Weiner is an awful guy who embarrassed our party. I implied that from the jump. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #57

He didn't give anyone anything. I didn't see anything that equates to harassment. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #61

We are at an impasse. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #65

'Dems, clearing the deck, not wanting distractions to pursue moore.' sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #70

Here's a BRIEF walk through Weiner's perverted world Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #59

Too early HopeAgain Dec 2017 #22

Perspective does come with time. But people often recognize wrong when they see it... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #41

hyperbole is lingua franca annabanana Dec 2017 #25

Or, to employ another metaphor: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #10

That was probably the idea, I guess. MineralMan Dec 2017 #11

The irony of trying to be the "moral party" is that it doesn't matter, in the end. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #46

I will not forget either HelenWheels Dec 2017 #54

Me either. Ligyron Dec 2017 #63

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #71

Absolutely agree, MM peggysue2 Dec 2017 #14

Thanks! I'm seeing no benefits to any of this. MineralMan Dec 2017 #15

Are you kidding? ananda Dec 2017 #17

The "High Road" zentrum Dec 2017 #20

Well, everything can be viewed with a microscope or a macroscope. MineralMan Dec 2017 #21

Accomplishing nothing seems to be the trend today.... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #23

Sadly, we're pretty good at that, generally. MineralMan Dec 2017 #24

All we did was blur the lines--creating false equivalency ourselves pandr32 Dec 2017 #26

Yes. They were played like violins by the opposition. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #34

Very well stated! maddiemom Dec 2017 #37

I think it is an important distinction pandr32 Dec 2017 #43

Even Newt Gingrich and Laura Ingraham thought it was wrong to Ilsa Dec 2017 #31

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #33

Nope. I've been a Democrat all of my adult life. MineralMan Dec 2017 #36

None of Frankens detractors are capable of skewering Republicans as well as he. gordianot Dec 2017 #35

Franken was very well informed and relentless in his Senate questioning. maddiemom Dec 2017 #39

Republicans are ecstatic that he's gone dalton99a Dec 2017 #62

his handling of sessions might of been his undoing questionseverything Dec 2017 #75

I could not agree more - thanks Mineral Man! Mountain Mule Dec 2017 #42

And thanks to you for taking the time to reply! MineralMan Dec 2017 #44

Huge catastrophic mistake of epic proportions! lark Dec 2017 #50

I'm not sure I'd go that far, really. MineralMan Dec 2017 #53

Maybe? I know I'm really really angry, lark Dec 2017 #55

Oh yeah, prior to this I was really hoping Harris would run for president. lark Dec 2017 #56

It was indeed a sacrifice and they will get nothing in return. R B Garr Dec 2017 #52

K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #58

K&R orangecrush Dec 2017 #60

"returns to the Americas" Thanks for being such a racist! L. Coyote Dec 2017 #64

I agree! SalviaBlue Dec 2017 #66

Two minor slashes from dubious weapons and a handful of mysterious minor wounds of Thor_MN Dec 2017 #67

You description is the best I have seen. Scruffy1 Dec 2017 #69

Millions of people will see what they did as a weakness of the democratic party again rather than RKP5637 Dec 2017 #76

K & R! Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #77

Human sacrifice never left. It's called "war". n/t yodermon Dec 2017 #78

Al Franken Heartstrings Dec 2017 #79