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hlthe2b

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9. I agree

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 07:11 PM

Dec 2017

Zero tolerance backfires in most things... So many think it "simplifies" but it merely "stupifies".

A few years ago, my neighbor's 7 year old daughter--a straight A student and really polite (and fairly introverted), was expelled from school. Why? because she deigned to bring a two inch rounded butter knife to spread peanut butter & jelly on her bread, so that it wouldn't get soggy. She didn't think twice about dropping the tiny little spreading knife in her lunch bag and neither would I. But the school had a ZERO TOLERANCE policy towards "KNIVES" and technically this was a knife (in name only). Many $$$ of legal fees later and they prevailed against the school board with a very rational, yet highly annoyed judge.

So, while I don't mean to compare this disparate issue with that which we are facing as a nation re: sexual misbehavior/abuse, it does underscore the ridiculous extremes of policies designed never to make us (or anyone) think-- with no flexibility, no deviations.

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Regarding Franken's resignation [View all] SHRED Dec 2017 OP

Yes, and they can expect major blowback because of it. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #1

But I thank them for making clear who needs to go😡 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #26

and I'm an example charliea Dec 2017 #35

"Claiming he resigned" - btw, he actually hasn't resigned yet. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #2

I am amazed at the lack of comprehension here. Almost feels like hoards of freepdom roaming. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #8

End result is the same SHRED Dec 2017 #13

Maybe, maybe not dumbcat Dec 2017 #28

Doing something and saying you will do something in the future Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #30

I would add, an investigation Leeann Tweeden seemed not to want. I wonder why? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #3

I think thats a very important point that too many are ignoring. arthritisR_US Dec 2017 #6

Bingo. dalton99a Dec 2017 #14

Because lying under oath to the Senate is a crime. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #15

You can say that here. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #16

Wow. Link? zentrum Dec 2017 #19

It was the day Franken apologized and she accepted. Use advanced search. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #20

Will do. Thanks. zentrum Dec 2017 #40

I saw a clip from The View; maybe it is online? in which spooky3 Dec 2017 #21

The View LakeArenal Dec 2017 #22

??? spooky3 Dec 2017 #23

Tweeden said it on the View.. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #25

Hmmm. Thanks. zentrum Dec 2017 #38

Zero tolerance has never been a good solution. Cattledog Dec 2017 #4

You're right. In my experience: PatrickforO Dec 2017 #32

But a reflexive denial carries the risk of being refuted, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #5

nice guys finish last. blimablam Dec 2017 #7

Well, the Dems sure do. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #33

I agree hlthe2b Dec 2017 #9

Happened to my daughter SHRED Dec 2017 #12

That is so terrible. I am sorry that your daughter went through that. StevieM Dec 2017 #48

I am proud of her SHRED Dec 2017 #57

Congratulations to you for raising a successful and upstanding daughter. StevieM Dec 2017 #60

Thanks SHRED Dec 2017 #61

Or the six-year-old who bit a Pop Tart into an "L" shape and then pointed at a friend. tblue37 Dec 2017 #17

Zero tolerance at its most stupid. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #34

Agreed Egnever Dec 2017 #10

I'm done, seriously ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #11

+1. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #18

The only person I support right now is Randy Bryce. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #24

The only Dems I have any respect for at this point are PatrickforO Dec 2017 #36

Yes! n/t rainin Dec 2017 #42

32 democrats rushed to demand that Democrat Franken resign. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2017 #27

And sadly, #Me Too has done damage to their own cause by being so willingly hijacked world wide wally Dec 2017 #29

This defacto7 Dec 2017 #31

he has not resigned yet. he said in the coming weeks. drray23 Dec 2017 #37

I think there is danger with that approach SHRED Dec 2017 #39

"me too" will go the way of "occupy" and in a few years neither will be remembered. nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #41

are they gonna clear out the me too peops with tear gas the way they did occupy? questionseverything Dec 2017 #51

It's just going to die of over-use. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #55

Message to young men: rainin Dec 2017 #43

I've already seen it on other sites ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #44

NanceGreggs - I hate the fact FakeNoose Dec 2017 #46

No, you are not alone SHRED Dec 2017 #59

Im still too angry to be civil. While I passionately stand beside and support #MeToo... Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #45

My first post. I have zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance BaileyBill Dec 2017 #47

Welcome to DU! OhioBlue Dec 2017 #49

Beautiful 1st post, even for a longtime lurker - populistdriven Dec 2017 #50

I think your post is great. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #52

Welcome . Great post. Eom and nt mean there is nothing beyond this reply title line lunasun Dec 2017 #53

Well, you got my attention, even with my ADD!... Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #54

Thanks for posting. dalton99a Dec 2017 #56

Welcome SHRED Dec 2017 #58