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BaileyBill

(176 posts)
47. My first post. I have zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 09:40 PM
Dec 2017

First, I suppose I should introduce myself. A long-time lurker, I survived the ‘nineties and ‘oughts in red-state Texas on a diet of Buzzflash and Bartcop. Discovered DU and became an instant addict, hooking many family and friends in the process.

Retired from law enforcement for the state several years ago after also working at the VA and as a drug/alcohol counselor. Have a masters and completed everything but a dissertation for a doctorate in psychology. Now live on the family farm with Elvis (he ain’t nothin’ but a hound dog), a cat, 2 kittens, and 30 grass-fed cows. (And yes, I understand the environmental implications, but we try to convert as much land as possible to wetlands, woodlands and native grasses. Still, would not be able to pay taxes and hold on to the place without the agricultural exemption, and I failed at growing asparagus.)

I am so white that I glow in the dark, but my gorgeous grandkids mix black, white and Hispanic in a magical way. Wife passed 3 ½ years ago.

Never a real firebrand, although my wife and I did spend some time supporting Cindy Sheehan in Crawford, TX. I became more active in the Party after retirement. Am now a Precinct Chair and Communications Chair for the County Party and have been a delegate to the State Democratic Conventions.

About half of our locals supported Bernie, the other half Hillary, but after the nomination we all worked our tails off for Clinton. Phone calling, door knocking, letters to the editor and op-eds in the local papers, ads we designed and produced locally and printed in the local rags. And we got creamed, to the tune of something like 85% to 15%. God bless rural Texas.

Battered and bloody, Nov. 8, 2016 was a terribly depressing day. But we picked ourselves up and resumed the fight. We have an active Indivisible chapter (Elvis is an enthusiastic protester, barking out the chants), and continue to write and tweet and fight in whatever way we can. For the first time in years, we even have candidates for many of the local state and federal races.

And this week, for the first time ever, I am tempted to say to hell with it all.

“Zero Tolerance” is now the elixir that is being foisted upon us by Sen. Gillibrand and her merry band. Grab the moral high ground, show how much better we are.

But “Zero Tolerance” is the concept that the right has used to destroy generations of school kids, mostly minority. The stats on the difference in rates of students facing discipline, suspension or “alternative placement” between minorities and whites are both staggering and frightening. And they are no accident.

And “Zero Tolerance” is the concept that the right has used to destroy generations of young people in the War on Drugs, again primarily minority. The criminal justice stats on the difference in rates of arrests, charges, sentences and incarcerations between minorities and whites are both mind-boggling and depressing. And they are no accident.

So, now let’s give the Republicans another area in which they can use “Zero Tolerance” to bash and decimate us. Because “Zero Tolerance” never has and never will apply to wealthy, white Republicans. And in this case, we are using it to destroy one of our own without Republicans having to lift a finger.

Respectfully, but loudly, I call bullshit. No, we do not “have” to believe the women. We do “have” to believe the evidence.

Evidence from a political foe can be valid, but the standard of proof is and should be higher. Same for anonymous sources. Same for those with ulterior motives or the possibility of financial gain.

As so many of you have pointed out, Sen. Franken admitted only to a tasteless joke that was photographed and that was twisted into a blanket confession by, okay, pretty much everyone. The evidence for any of the other allegations was see-through thin and often anonymous, and sometimes from political opponents who, for some reason, wanted a picture with Al.

While I am not a boot-licker for the military, I do find some of their traditions honorable and enlightening. Leaving no one behind, for example. In this case, we had a comrade who was wounded, not even dead. And I guess you could say we didn’t just leave him behind, we formed a squad to go back and shoot him ourselves.

It may be that every allegation about Sen. Franken was valid and righteous. We may never know, except for the possibility that people like Jan Levinson will keep doing the media’s job for them. But with the contrast between the treatment of Sen. Franken and Sen. Menendez, with the self-serving grandstanding by Sen. Gillibrand and the rest, the possibility that the motives of the Democrats who abandoned Sen. Franken were benevolent and pure is, to me, almost nil.

So, I hope to hang around here and maybe vent, get a little support, and perhaps get a bit of mojo back. I hate to think of surrendering this country to the forces of selfishness and greed, but for the first time I am beginning to wonder if there really is a significant difference between the two parties, and whether my heretofore enthusiastic participation makes me complicit. I always thought, if nothing else, Democrats put fairness first.

(Please be patient, this is my first time on chat or forums. Made my first text a couple of months ago, so I am trying. Just read on a thread what kick and rec. mean, but not sure I really get it. Still no clue what n/t is. Looking forward to someday using an emoji.)

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Yes, and they can expect major blowback because of it. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #1
But I thank them for making clear who needs to go😡 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #26
and I'm an example charliea Dec 2017 #35
"Claiming he resigned" - btw, he actually hasn't resigned yet. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #2
I am amazed at the lack of comprehension here. Almost feels like hoards of freepdom roaming. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #8
End result is the same SHRED Dec 2017 #13
Maybe, maybe not dumbcat Dec 2017 #28
Doing something and saying you will do something in the future Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #30
I would add, an investigation Leeann Tweeden seemed not to want. I wonder why? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #3
I think thats a very important point that too many are ignoring. arthritisR_US Dec 2017 #6
Bingo. dalton99a Dec 2017 #14
Because lying under oath to the Senate is a crime. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #15
You can say that here. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #16
Wow. Link? zentrum Dec 2017 #19
It was the day Franken apologized and she accepted. Use advanced search. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #20
Will do. Thanks. zentrum Dec 2017 #40
I saw a clip from The View; maybe it is online? in which spooky3 Dec 2017 #21
The View LakeArenal Dec 2017 #22
??? spooky3 Dec 2017 #23
Tweeden said it on the View.. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #25
Hmmm. Thanks. zentrum Dec 2017 #38
Zero tolerance has never been a good solution. Cattledog Dec 2017 #4
You're right. In my experience: PatrickforO Dec 2017 #32
But a reflexive denial carries the risk of being refuted, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #5
nice guys finish last. blimablam Dec 2017 #7
Well, the Dems sure do. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #33
I agree hlthe2b Dec 2017 #9
Happened to my daughter SHRED Dec 2017 #12
That is so terrible. I am sorry that your daughter went through that. StevieM Dec 2017 #48
I am proud of her SHRED Dec 2017 #57
Congratulations to you for raising a successful and upstanding daughter. StevieM Dec 2017 #60
Thanks SHRED Dec 2017 #61
Or the six-year-old who bit a Pop Tart into an "L" shape and then pointed at a friend. tblue37 Dec 2017 #17
Zero tolerance at its most stupid. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #34
Agreed Egnever Dec 2017 #10
I'm done, seriously ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #11
+1. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #18
The only person I support right now is Randy Bryce. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #24
The only Dems I have any respect for at this point are PatrickforO Dec 2017 #36
Yes! n/t rainin Dec 2017 #42
32 democrats rushed to demand that Democrat Franken resign. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2017 #27
And sadly, #Me Too has done damage to their own cause by being so willingly hijacked world wide wally Dec 2017 #29
This defacto7 Dec 2017 #31
he has not resigned yet. he said in the coming weeks. drray23 Dec 2017 #37
I think there is danger with that approach SHRED Dec 2017 #39
"me too" will go the way of "occupy" and in a few years neither will be remembered. nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #41
are they gonna clear out the me too peops with tear gas the way they did occupy? questionseverything Dec 2017 #51
It's just going to die of over-use. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #55
Message to young men: rainin Dec 2017 #43
I've already seen it on other sites ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #44
NanceGreggs - I hate the fact FakeNoose Dec 2017 #46
No, you are not alone SHRED Dec 2017 #59
Im still too angry to be civil. While I passionately stand beside and support #MeToo... Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #45
My first post. I have zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance BaileyBill Dec 2017 #47
Welcome to DU! OhioBlue Dec 2017 #49
Beautiful 1st post, even for a longtime lurker - populistdriven Dec 2017 #50
I think your post is great. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #52
Welcome . Great post. Eom and nt mean there is nothing beyond this reply title line lunasun Dec 2017 #53
Well, you got my attention, even with my ADD!... Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #54
Thanks for posting. dalton99a Dec 2017 #56
Welcome SHRED Dec 2017 #58
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