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34. Jeff Flake thinks it can be better to lose a senate seat than tarnish the party image

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:29 AM

Dec 2017

The senate dems want a super clear difference in party images, Dems protecting women, Repub hurting them. Franken makes that difference less clear. That kind of difference in party images influences tens of thousands of elections around the nation, now and in future years. Forfeiting one or two seats is less important than in bolstering that difference in party images. Jeff Flake knows that Roy Moore winning one Senate seat is a huge loss for Republicans overall and Senate Dems have a similar view about Franken. They still love Franken. We all do. But it is not hard to see that one small man and the small chance of losing one senate seat does not add up to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Al needs to get on the damn plane flying out of Casablanca just like Ilsa had to.

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Why did senators who asked Franken to resign hug him afterwards? [View all] Joe941 Dec 2017 OP

Symbolic kiss (hug) of political "death". democratisphere Dec 2017 #1

A political death none have immunity to. Hortensis Dec 2017 #14

Yes, it's very clear. LisaL Dec 2017 #16

We each answer that for ourselves, of course. Hortensis Dec 2017 #32

Exactly. I enthusiastically voted for Franken. mn9driver Dec 2017 #45

I hear you Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #77

You're not alone. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #78

The Republican Party marybourg Dec 2017 #79

Thank the Democratic Party. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #82

The first time Franken was elected suegeo Dec 2017 #90

BTW I'm not endorsing the story's premise that he made himself a victim. Joe941 Dec 2017 #2

Like the kiss from Pacino to Fredo in the GODFATHER 😠 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #3

DC runs on bullshit. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #4

Sure does. Demand he resign for groping then go give him a hug. LisaL Dec 2017 #9

Hugging someone accused of groping that they just demanded resign for that groping? LisaL Dec 2017 #5

Al is a... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #6

Per that masterpiece of an article, they hugged him. LisaL Dec 2017 #7

He took one for the team janterry Dec 2017 #8

Resigning in the COMING WEEKS ...2 or 152 weeks? The earliest I would guess... 4139 Dec 2017 #10

Adding on to he wants to fight.... remember rope-a-dope? 4139 Dec 2017 #12

He'll stay at least until the gov. appoints his replacement DesertRat Dec 2017 #76

Twisting the knife IADEMO2004 Dec 2017 #11

That is Onion-like in how horrifying it is. spooky3 Dec 2017 #13

Franken left to bolster election chances not because he is bad Cicada Dec 2017 #15

His seat could end up in Republican hands. LisaL Dec 2017 #17

Brither Tweeden and Ms. Christianity (not a bible between them would like that) Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #19

Your answer does not address the question which was asked Cicada Dec 2017 #29

They won't have a replacement for Conyers...this is a put up job and it is open season on Democrats. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #22

Franken leaving did zero good. DEMANDING an immediate investigation would have done more. groundloop Dec 2017 #27

He did demand an investigation. LisaL Dec 2017 #28

Jeff Flake thinks it can be better to lose a senate seat than tarnish the party image Cicada Dec 2017 #34

Dems protecting women, Repub hurting them? LisaL Dec 2017 #35

Both, or do you like Black Lives Matter movement means blacks aren't equal? mythology Dec 2017 #41

Of course they need to be protected Cicada Dec 2017 #65

Your question is actually irrelevant Cicada Dec 2017 #67

Explain to me why Trump got elected and got a majority of white women to vote for him? LisaL Dec 2017 #69

62% of white men voted for Hillary, only 53% of white women Cicada Dec 2017 #70

Trump still got majority of white women to vote for him. LisaL Dec 2017 #71

47% voted against him Cicada Dec 2017 #74

You are correct highmindedhavi Dec 2017 #86

Nonsense RobinA Dec 2017 #94

The high-minded idealism you express is laudable. And catastrophically naive, in my opinion. better Dec 2017 #63

This. Just this. tavalon Dec 2017 #92

I Think You Forgot RobinA Dec 2017 #93

Cool story tazkcmo Dec 2017 #80

I am so angry...I don't care. He should have turned his back and walked away. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #18

I am too and it seems that this has deminished anything Trump does.... I just don't care as much. JimBeard Dec 2017 #30

Especially since he is in theory going to grope them treestar Dec 2017 #20

Tell them to keep their hands to themselves. LisaL Dec 2017 #24

It was a strategic move that i'm not comfortable with jimlup Dec 2017 #21

Not 'may' backfired but will backfire...they won't appoint a replacement for Conyers...nine months Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #25

Will these "high road" lynch mobbers complain about the citizens of Conyer's district ollie10 Dec 2017 #39

Of course not...they play right into the GOP's hands and then act all self righteous Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #50

Of course it was a political calculation. LisaL Dec 2017 #26

High moral ground? Katinfl Dec 2017 #49

Already has backfired. Duppers Dec 2017 #36

To Thank Him for the Lack Of Competition from him during the 2020 Primary JI7 Dec 2017 #23

The GOP wanted the votes...thus Franken had to go...to get their death agenda through... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

They're all dead to me, so fuck it. ananda Dec 2017 #31

I thought it was as his staff,,,,nt Ninga Dec 2017 #33

Like the parent who tries to hug their kid after spanking them to Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #37

Back Stabbers ollie10 Dec 2017 #38

I wish he'd say every single one of them groped his ass during the hug. nt Captain Stern Dec 2017 #40

Or his waist. LisaL Dec 2017 #43

I wish he had spat on every one of them, except it would be a shame to waste the saliva Glorfindel Dec 2017 #44

It was love dalton99a Dec 2017 #42

Probably setting him up for more accusations. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #46

Ohhh...they knew the charges where BS.... mentalslavery Dec 2017 #48

So typical for immoral liberals to put their arms around a sexual predator! IronLionZion Dec 2017 #51

Because they are giant, flaming hypocrites Bettie Dec 2017 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #53

No, they supposedly believed the accusations that he was a groper. Then they hugged him. LisaL Dec 2017 #54

And he does all his groping in public treestar Dec 2017 #59

Exactly. LisaL Dec 2017 #62

I can't believe it took 53 replies before someone said this. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #55

I hope the rest of them can live up to that high bar, or there won't be many of them left. LisaL Dec 2017 #58

Because most of us do not agree about his failing to live up to that "high bar." spooky3 Dec 2017 #66

This is pure political show and Gillibrand, Harris and Sanders just fucked up bigly! lark Dec 2017 #56

Wait until they turn on each other. Blaukraut Dec 2017 #60

Disgusting selfish behavior! lark Dec 2017 #64

They wanted to retrieve the knives they stuck in his back. For next time. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #57

It reminds me of when the contestants on The Bachelor or Big Brother Pachamama Dec 2017 #61

I've always thought the same. Joe941 Dec 2017 #75

Because they like Al, they wish this hadn't happened, and they are sorry he has to go. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #68

They wanted their knives back. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #72

Sounds about right. LisaL Dec 2017 #73

Brutus hugged Julius Caesar. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #81

Because . . . peggysue2 Dec 2017 #83

Life isn't fair. LisaL Dec 2017 #85

They are two faced cowards doc03 Dec 2017 #84

If it had been me, I would have stood tall with... 3catwoman3 Dec 2017 #87

Many liked him and considered him a friend, but felt they had to join the lemmings anyway Amaryllis Dec 2017 #88

I've read ISIS hugged gays before shoving them off a roof to their death. left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #89

GUILT! RealityChik Dec 2017 #91

I came in here looking for a punchline. milestogo Dec 2017 #95