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In reply to the discussion: Occam's Razor..... [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)14. How many ways is this wrong? Let's start with the obvious 6.
1) Occam's Razor is not an absolute rule. Many times the easiest answer is not the correct answer. Looking at the stars thousands of years ago showed that when constellations were in a certain area that was the best time to plant crops. The explanation that the stars cause it wasn't true.
2) There are groups where people actually started vomiting or expressed other physical symptoms in what is known as hysterical contagion in which real, not imagined, symptoms occur even though we know that it was all psychological. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_contagion
3) You completely misstate the known facts. Eight women did not "risk perjury charges". None of them did. Most of the accusations were made anonymously. None of the accusations went through professional reporters like the WP that strenuously vetted Moore's accusers. Even MSNBC is using headlines like "another accuser comes out with a charge of sexual misconduct against Franken" when none of the charges involved sexual misconduct
4) The real Occam's Razor: How likely is it that all of the "charges" appear in front of cameras, with none of the pictures supporting the charges (and two of them actually make it appear that Franken was not in position to do what was alleged) and that a "sexual predator" has NO charges of groping, kissing, exhibitionism, unwanted advances or invitations IN PRIVATE by the hundreds of women that he has worked with?"
Answer: Extremely unlikely and never heard of before.
5) Where there is smoke there is fire. The most damaging allegation is that there were 8 (but actually only 4 that made anything public). The right's use of quantity in targeting someone is a well known tactic, just ask Mr. Service. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029904657
6) Democratic leadership: Not stupid but they are weak and seduced by a stupid strategy. They are looking at winning the Alabama seat and how this would effect a Tsunami reaction: More women running, more women getting committed to the offshore election where Democrats repeatedly don't come out and vote.
The idea that a sexual predator goes over board on a photo where a consensual hug is part of the ritual and then never does anything in private where he can get caught is laughable. The idea that none of the pictures support the allegations is hilarious. Here is another Occam's Razor: If he is a serial 'grabber' and did this repeatedly in front of cameras in multiple areas why isn't there some photo evidence, even just a surprised look, on any of the accusers face?"
As to the first accuser: A PAID member of Hannity's group that is captured committing "perjury" in advancing the birther lie is the most credible charge because of the staged picture, but then there are plenty of pictures of her engaging in even more aggressive actions with Robin Williams and other soldiers.
This is another example of Democrats coming to a gun fight with a knife but in this case its a plastic knife and we are handing the Republicans the gun.
How likely is it that radical reactionaries that have been exposed to have paid provocateurs surreptitiously filming Democrats trying to document progressives and even reaching out to our enemies to win an election would try to have a couple of provocateurs come forth right before Moore's election to try and save their seat?
Likely, it was predictable.
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Invoking Occam's Razor to present a false dichotomy is manipulative and an insult to Occam.
Denzil_DC
Dec 2017
#15
While, yeah, Franken did do some inappropriate things, Occam requires including all evidence
Bucky
Dec 2017
#18
Man, Occam must have been shaving constantly because he had a lot of Razors...
califootman
Dec 2017
#21
Then the correct answer would have been I never touched them inappropriately
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#34
Except that, at that point, Franken's initial response was baked in to the analysis.
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#37