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19. For me yes

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:12 PM

Dec 2017

In my opinion it showed a serious lack of leadership an unwillingness to fight when the going got rough.

It is easy to mouth platitudes much harder to stand up for what was right.

Barring some solid evidence they showed me what they would do in the face of adversity.

So yes in my case they have disqualified themselves.

They could still walk it back and I would.likely forgive them.if they did because that would be doing the right thing in a difficult situation. I am not holding my.breathe.

I never forgave anyone who voted for the IWR not Kerry not Clinton not schummer none of them it was a similar case where the evidence was all out there and they chose to ignore it and bow to the optics instead. We are still paying for that vote. In schummer case he now has two strikes.

I voted for Kerry and Clinton in the general but both of them.lost. I think the results would be the same.should any of these folks get the nod

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... LexVegas Dec 2017 #11

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There was a count taken and it was more than Heir Hilderbran Purposeful. mispelling JimBeard Dec 2017 #70

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President Amy Klobuchar. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #54

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This message was self-deleted by its author flotsam Dec 2017 #48

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