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In reply to the discussion: Look what I just found in a comment on Senator Gillibrand's FB page: [View all]PatrickforO
(14,573 posts)From what I'm hearing on the ground, Gillibrand and Harris are both now facing major blowback. Even some #me too women have gone on record saying this isn't helping their movement.
Not only that but dozens of women have written in support of Franken, including a group from SNL and a group of women staffers in his Senate office.
These allegations are so spurious (Franken accidentally touched the bare flesh of a woman's hip while in a group photo with her, she mentioned that because she'd gained weight, was self-conscious about that, and her shirt had ridden up a bit) that this whole thing has offended many in the base.
First of all, zero tolerance policies have a history of throwing common sense and any kind of discretion to the wind. Getting rid of Franken for the sake of these allegations is like an idiotic elementary school principle who expels a first-grade girl for bringing a plastic knife to spread peanut butter on a piece of bread. It's just stupid.
Next, when I see the knee-jerk reaction here, it makes me think of the old red scares and McCarthyism. Black lists. Congressional witch hunts. Only instead of communists, now the 'perps' are pretty much all men over 55.
Problem is, there are a lot of pretty good people over 55, and if we don't let them legitimately redeem themselves from dumb acts that happened way back when, justice will not be served. The criteria that should be applied is 1) how long ago did it happen?, 2) how serious was it? and 3) is the behavior stopped, or has it happened in the last five years?
Franken probably did a couple of creepy things way back when, but based on evidence presented and an objective observation of his behavior in the Senate, to label him a sexual predator, and force him to resign is absurd. To my mind this was a despicable act that had much more to do with Gillibrand's political ambition (she kneecapped Franken to get him out of the way for her 2020 presidential bid because she perceived him as a potential opponent), and nothing to do with any values or vision she might or might not have.