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100. How could this have possibly turned out worse?

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:31 PM

Jul 2012

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I have to agree that if even one patron had been armed with a 9mm or .40 cal and could have gotten close enough to hit him, that would have knocked him on his ass regardless of what he was wearing.

And really, how could this have possibly turned out worse than it did? A lone LTC holder with any tactical training might have had a chance. We'll just never know.

While I certainly don't want to see everyone walking around armed, it also occurs to me that the act of strapping on a sidearm does not cause one to instantly descend into madness. I know lots of people whom I completely trust to carry a weapon in any situation.

If I were ever in such a hellish situation, I would certainly want a fighting chance to survive rather than be mowed down like cattle.

I know, it's easy to talk tough from the comfort of my recliner. In all probability I would have just panicked. But I have no military, police or tactical training. People with the proper training and no history of violent or antisocial behavior should be allowed to carry anywhere.

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A not so well regulated militia of one just killed twelve souls and wounded seventy people. [View all] amerikat Jul 2012 OP

Well done rufus dog Jul 2012 #1

A not so well regulated militia... Du rec. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #2

K & R. tosh Jul 2012 #3

"A not so well regulated militia..." Exactly! scarletwoman Jul 2012 #4

I second you on that.. whathehell Jul 2012 #5

It's a sad cry... SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #6

You have seen the picture of what the shooter wore nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #9

Training SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #11

So you go to the tactical range still nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #15

Tickling SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #21

No, according to the cops he had body armor nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #22

No according to the reports he had NO bullet-proof armor. SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #27

So should I ignored Chief Oates nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #47

Works for me SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #60

Actually pal I have, more than once in fact. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #63

So I should take your word for it Pal? SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #69

So you can believe what you want nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #70

Yes you too can believe what you want SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #74

That's nice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #79

Tyler Tx courthouse shooting. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #114

According to pd yes nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #117

It was a facetious question. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #125

Then I guess my local pd and sheriffs makes numbers up nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #127

Nobody wears armor 'from head to toe'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #133

Go take it with the chief nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #136

Sorry, he's a self-evidently non-authoritative source. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #138

"And yes, been in a few shoot outs...so whatever." zappaman Jul 2012 #119

OK, now I get it. Your humor is SOOOOO dry, you had me going. Good job. uppityperson Jul 2012 #86

Right to choose SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #94

Aren't you getting tired? Jumping to all those false conclusions? I like cheesecake more than pie uppityperson Jul 2012 #97

Obviously Humble is your choice SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #106

"All I've heard are insults and innuendos" rather than answering about why you think you know more uppityperson Jul 2012 #107

Humble, crow, pepperoni - we are here to please. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #128

Yup. A dark theater. 2 people shooting. Then 3. Then 4. None of them knowing who is "allowed" to uppityperson Jul 2012 #82

What could go wrong? Oh wait, then the cops show up A Simple Game Jul 2012 #108

Yup. uppityperson Jul 2012 #110

Thank you MIRT for not tying the hands of DUers to protect themselves. Good nuke. uppityperson Jul 2012 #118

I think the tear gas and the hail of bullets would have kept samsingh Jul 2012 #130

Imagine who else would have died if people starting shooting in a panic samsingh Jul 2012 #135

That idiot would have just shot someone other than the shooter eridani Jul 2012 #139

you should know - being new to DU and all - there is a sarcasm thingie to add to posts like yours DrDan Jul 2012 #151

The shooter obtained his weapons LEGALLY. isuphighyeah Jul 2012 #156

Not a big fan of everyone carrying a gun. amerikat Jul 2012 #12

Not allowed? treestar Jul 2012 #13

if that dead six year old girl had only been packing heat lunatica Jul 2012 #14

Don't forget the three month old nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #20

yeah, or all those young teenagers lunatica Jul 2012 #23

Dancing in the blood of a child is tasteless. Tejas Jul 2012 #26

LOL! lunatica Jul 2012 #51

I know that's the dream gollygee Jul 2012 #19

Who said everyone ? SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #24

he was dressed head to toe in bullet resistant/proof gear. How could someone with a handgun, likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #30

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You get all smartassy on your first day. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #44

By your name and your post SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #58

Serve honorably? Like me for instance. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #62

Like you ? SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #71

Actually, gun ranges get robbed. mbperrin Jul 2012 #121

Right, you think average people who are not trained in these situations likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #89

RE; Why no one robs a gun range? Maybe there is not a whole lot of cash there? likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #99

(Psst there's no such thing as bulletproof) AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #116

Golly... 99Forever Jul 2012 #42

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #52

Am I excused if I own already a 40? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #57

I am sure that your intentions are good Tumbulu Jul 2012 #64

I find your appoach - empty SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #73

My post gave suggestions Tumbulu Jul 2012 #137

Why do you think Colorado prohibits concealed carry in movie theaters? They don't. mbperrin Jul 2012 #115

An enclosed, darken area filled with panicked non combatants sarge43 Jul 2012 #140

reagan larwdem Jul 2012 #31

And NO ONE was killed SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #40

get an army larwdem Jul 2012 #56

Not for lack of trying nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #59

They had excellent emergency care. HubertHeaver Jul 2012 #134

That he was lucky. n/t Downtown Hound Jul 2012 #152

Shot by a friend of the Bush family, John Hinckley... KansDem Jul 2012 #43

Guns..Kill...Period... Zarnockf Jul 2012 #112

"NO ONE in the audience was allowed to defend their own life"? Good grief. uppityperson Jul 2012 #80

Good Grief SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #85

How do you save your life or others lives? I guess you are unimaginative if all you can think of is uppityperson Jul 2012 #93

Please quit saying that anyone's hands were tied. mbperrin Jul 2012 #122

Perhaps the law didnt, but the theater rules did. beevul Jul 2012 #142

So strangely, pro-guns-for-everybody folk will have to claim that everyone obeys a sign mbperrin Jul 2012 #144

First, who are the "pro-guns for everybody" folk? beevul Jul 2012 #157

Yes, and that IS the law in Colorado. mbperrin Jul 2012 #158

Here's the content of one post on this very thread: mbperrin Jul 2012 #160

I'll tell you what. beevul Jul 2012 #167

Let's do away with your straw men: mbperrin Jul 2012 #168

What a shame? mahina Jul 2012 #104

Do u have any suggestions on how the death toll would have been 0? samsingh Jul 2012 #131

Another paranoid delusional action movie fantasy _ed_ Jul 2012 #153

LOL. Mall ninja was here. JBoy Jul 2012 #154

How do you know no one in the theater didn't have a gun? isuphighyeah Jul 2012 #155

Well put gollygee Jul 2012 #7

"Well regulated" does not mean "restrictive laws" Kennah Jul 2012 #8

"...properly armed and equipped" for WHAT? scarletwoman Jul 2012 #17

Foriegn and domestic. sav99 Jul 2012 #50

Do the movie goers count as domestic enemies? scarletwoman Jul 2012 #78

Would you prefer that sav99 Jul 2012 #143

I need an A-bomb to defend my property. baldguy Jul 2012 #18

Straw argument failure Kennah Jul 2012 #161

No thinking person believes that a semi-automatic assault rifle is effective for personal defense. baldguy Jul 2012 #163

Soldiers and cops use them for personal defense and defense of others Kennah Jul 2012 #166

Yet oddly, Federal Paper 29, is not in the Constitution. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #35

If it is an individual right ... Kennah Jul 2012 #162

Written in 1788 before Constitution and BOR were ratified Kennah Jul 2012 #164

Today we have a standing army for that. arcane1 Jul 2012 #36

Supreme Court addressed the issue of the militia in 1990 (Perpich v. DOD) Kennah Jul 2012 #165

My Dad and I discussed this neeksgeek Jul 2012 #10

Fatherly Advice SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #16

How many times have you needed to use a gun to kill someone? lunatica Jul 2012 #25

Number of times SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #32

Your story - a favorite on Stormfront alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #41

I don't care about race - SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #49

Some facts are more important than others, though, yes? alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #54

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #66

You smoked him out with the Stormfront ploy. His response indicates he swallows the b.s. that brewens Jul 2012 #120

Dumbass didn't even last two hours alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #124

+1 only for this fact: Raine1967 Jul 2012 #65

Really? A number of times? lunatica Jul 2012 #45

Vulgarity is the refuge of the uninformed SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #77

Funny, been in a few shoot outs involving high powered weapons nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #61

Nothing funny about a shoot out SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #81

Who said it was funny? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #83

You said it was funny SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #87

I even know what it was nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #88

Awesome! zappaman Jul 2012 #123

. dionysus Jul 2012 #126

I do not want to live in a world where I need to carry a pistol with me when I go to the theater. neeksgeek Jul 2012 #28

Then don't carry it SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #34

Is the NRA paying you or do you spread their propaganda for free? lunatica Jul 2012 #46

You are completely delusional. DURHAM D Jul 2012 #72

So, a cop would have been useless? Tejas Jul 2012 #84

Me thinks you have it reversed. SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #92

is it delusional to know more than the chief of police on the scene? To think no one was "allowed" uppityperson Jul 2012 #96

Right to choose SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #101

If you are what you claim your badge is good nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #103

Quick, off to do a quick google. waiting for a reply. waiting. waiting. waiting..... uppityperson Jul 2012 #111

Nonsequiter.Again. Chocolate cheesecake isn't that good, but lemon topped with cherries is. uppityperson Jul 2012 #105

He is a smart man samsingh Jul 2012 #132

It would appear that our militia has lost some of it's famous(ly ignored) constitutionally..... Schema Thing Jul 2012 #29

K and R. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #33

Again, we are trapped between the pages of history. Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #37

The Individuated-Militia Thesis alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #38

nice math error. gotta correct that PatrynXX Jul 2012 #48

Any NRA supporter SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #55

Who said no guns? lunatica Jul 2012 #90

Why of course SoutheastVoter Jul 2012 #98

By that logic, let's dispense of all laws nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #102

You're speaking out of your ether region lunatica Jul 2012 #109

As soon as I saw the title I knew the gun freepers would join in Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #53

They getting really easy to spot lunatica Jul 2012 #67

Lots of love to the spelunkers. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #68

K&R nt TBF Jul 2012 #75

A deregulated militia? caseymoz Jul 2012 #76

Exactly right! lunatica Jul 2012 #91

Which is absurd... neeksgeek Jul 2012 #95

And I would agree with you lunatica Jul 2012 #113

Yes, I figured that, sorry if it sounded like I misunderstood neeksgeek Jul 2012 #169

And yet every mention of making gun-training 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #147

But firearms training isn't regulating. caseymoz Jul 2012 #148

Do you think there was a draft in colonial America? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #149

I'm not sure they would have abhorred it. caseymoz Jul 2012 #150

How could this have possibly turned out worse? Flatulo Jul 2012 #100

For face book jlayson Jul 2012 #129

Excellent post malaise Jul 2012 #141

Bump. ananda Jul 2012 #145

And a Church is going to use their free-speech to mock the victims at a funeral 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #146

He was regulated poorly Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #159