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PatrickforO

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71. You're not gonna win this one.

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Original post)

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:31 PM

Dec 2017

Though I agree with you, it looks like the Democratic Party machine did what it did to Franken to position its US Representatives and Senators to forcefully demand that Trump and Moore be held accountable for sexual harassment, and politically, it may work.

Yes, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth...but I'm a man, and have been told in no uncertain terms that 'I don't get it,' and that 'I'm not a feminist,' so due process isn't so important, apparently.

Still, as I said, it may work...politically. And if it does, that is good, because we're about an eighth of an inch away from becoming a dictatorship.

But, what next? In the 50s and 60s we had the House Un-American Activities Committee in the US House. That is the unintended consequence of no due process. We'll see, I guess.

I must say, I'm certainly enthused moving forward. OK, now I'm shutting up because I clearly don't get 'it.'

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When "He abducted her, tied her up and violently raped her" gets the same repercusions as... [View all] Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 OP

Nobody disputes that there's a difference in the gravity of the two actions... brooklynite Dec 2017 #1

My point exactly. The line is being moved to a point that is no longer remotely sane. nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #2

Exactly. When everything is over the line, mn9driver Dec 2017 #4

Roy Moore has benefitted heavily customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #57

going thru kg facebook...looks us nobodie voters agree with you binkie questionseverything Dec 2017 #5

it just goes on and on..by tomorrow they will prob have it "cleaned up" questionseverything Dec 2017 #8

Hey! I know one of those posters! TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #55

Wow, that's pretty harsh! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #45

lotta men accusing her of grabbing their buns too questionseverything Dec 2017 #47

And they got it gravely wrong Egnever Dec 2017 #3

If social media is the new courtroom we are all screwed. airmid Dec 2017 #6

Exactly right Egnever Dec 2017 #7

For sure. LisaL Dec 2017 #9

And who gave them the authority ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #10

I have the same problem with them deciding to kick Franken out. LisaL Dec 2017 #12

Since this occurred I've been thinking about Minnesota Democrats. BadgerMom Dec 2017 #44

I'm a Minnesota Democrat geardaddy Dec 2017 #63

Schumer, their party boss, gave them his endorsement and joined their chorus. Let's not forget. ancianita Dec 2017 #14

Schumer's also on board with Jerusalem being treated as Israel's capital by Trump. BadgerMom Dec 2017 #42

A sad, important sidebar, but yes, both define the Democratic establishment. ancianita Dec 2017 #46

I agree. Can there not treestar Dec 2017 #48

And can there not be ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #51

All the penalties are informal. Igel Dec 2017 #53

Franken was called upon ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #54

It's all unacceptable. XRubicon Dec 2017 #11

I'm not sure I agree. rainin Dec 2017 #18

So, eight women linked with Roger Stone rat fucking, all make the same ridiculous accusations dhol82 Dec 2017 #23

The accusation leveled against Franken were ridiculous. He was set up. rainin Dec 2017 #56

Hope you are not getting that horrible cold that is going around. Feel better soon. dhol82 Dec 2017 #59

Question? world wide wally Dec 2017 #19

When does the line counteract LakeArenal Dec 2017 #40

We need the distinctions rock Dec 2017 #43

"women reporting" Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #65

Its because corporate owned Media rainy Dec 2017 #70

This is the purist, silly political mistake being made -- being suckered by false equivalency. ancianita Dec 2017 #13

The Republicans have already weaponized #metoo SergeStorms Dec 2017 #15

First they emphasized whites/blacks distrust, then Christian/Muslim distrust, now Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #16

Though it looks that way right now, I'm going to follow Franken's lead about what the party ancianita Dec 2017 #17

If Democrats don't change very soon..... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #21

Democrats are the minority party right now, but believe this: there is always a long term. ancianita Dec 2017 #34

Aren't they? SergeStorms Dec 2017 #20

Yes. cwydro Dec 2017 #66

Who does your title refer to? Didnt think Moore went that far? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #22

Hypothetical generalities, not specific cases. nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #24

Got it. If the hypothetical fits, wear it? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #25

Look up the Rape allegations made against tRump robbob Dec 2017 #72

You're right; I remember that now. I think she was working with Gloria Allred and was Amaryllis Dec 2017 #78

No thats the one. robbob Dec 2017 #79

What does it say when there are so many it's hard to keep them all straight? THat alone Amaryllis Dec 2017 #80

Taking it too far imo... SummerSnow Dec 2017 #26

My chiropractor's office receptionist calls lots of people "Sweetie." i always found it Amaryllis Dec 2017 #28

I have heard the expression from many southerners and it was just a friendly greeting imo SummerSnow Dec 2017 #30

My Wife Says It All The Time ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #60

It makes me deeply uncomfortable. Saviolo Dec 2017 #64

Around here treestar Dec 2017 #49

If these events were reported at the time, there could be more mythology Dec 2017 #27

Ivanka claimed T raped her? I never heard that one? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #29

yes, it is in her book SummerSnow Dec 2017 #31

Which book ? She's written several. She actually said he raped her??? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #33

Ya. I remember she said in a interview that he was angry and he raped her. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Amaryllis Dec 2017 #38

Not Ivanka. His first wife, Ivana. LisaL Dec 2017 #37

THanks! I mis-read Ivana to be Ivanka and that kinda freaked me out. But it didnt seem Amaryllis Dec 2017 #41

It was his first wife Ivana, not his daughter SummerSnow Dec 2017 #39

nothing in the spear of public knowledge tells us 'franken can't keep his hands to himself" questionseverything Dec 2017 #32

Woefully Inadequate? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #61

grabbing the flesh of someone's waist is worse than all of that IronLionZion Dec 2017 #36

Some folks have become way to strident in support of their cause IMHO. jalan48 Dec 2017 #50

I don't think it was about the "Me Too" movement. That was just an excuse. Kablooie Dec 2017 #52

If the so called perp is Jewish or Black it is Big News. If he is a white GOPer McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #58

exactly n/t orleans Dec 2017 #62

K&R. dchill Dec 2017 #67

The Age of False Equivalencies. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #68

Talk about not understanding the world we live in. KitSileya Dec 2017 #69

+1000 brer cat Dec 2017 #74

EXACTLY right, Kit NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #75

This! mcar Dec 2017 #76

Its good to hear a response like this LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #77

You're not gonna win this one. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #71

One dude to another, do you really feel you have the standing to diminsh any woman's ... marble falls Dec 2017 #73

People who rape should be in prison gollygee Dec 2017 #81

so now anybody who isn't a rapist/murderer is fit to be a dem senator/POTUS? that doesn't sound TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #82