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marybourg

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59. Yes, I said it myself, but it's also true that governments - when they are the single payer-

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 07:52 PM

Dec 2017

do the exact same thing. This is not one of the many problems single payer will fix. Guidelines need to be set thru legislation. The ACA is an appropriate vehicle for this, if we had a government that cared.

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Girl has blunt message for Aetna after her brain surgery request was denied [View all] n2doc Dec 2017 OP

Those asshole insurance companies Beakybird Dec 2017 #1

It works so well having them as the middleman in our healtcare Alice11111 Dec 2017 #35

Aetna is part of the American Criminal Enterprise Healthcare System democratisphere Dec 2017 #2

I hope somone starts a "Go Fund Me" page for her (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #3

I am sure insurance companies just LOVE medical gofundmes Skittles Dec 2017 #5

Right. But if the goal is to help the patient, than use whatever means necessary (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #7

The insurance company already approved the more expensive standard procedure Hav Dec 2017 #9

Laser ablation has been established for years. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #11

I did read the story Hav Dec 2017 #15

The insurance companies know that more people will choose NOT to have the invasive procedure Dustlawyer Dec 2017 #18

and...if they approve an "experimental" one...they know those surgeries mentalslavery Dec 2017 #26

Or there will be a huge influx of these procedures, Dustlawyer Dec 2017 #40

true...its just sick! mentalslavery Dec 2017 #56

Really, let the sympathetic people fund people in need Alice11111 Dec 2017 #38

Ding, Ding, Ding We have a winna Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #61

To be fair Hav Dec 2017 #4

Yes. You and I seem to have actually read the article, which makes marybourg Dec 2017 #13

Not a financial issue and the "selective editing" undermines credibility grantcart Dec 2017 #44

You should be ashamed metalbot Dec 2017 #53

I am guilty. Thank you for your diligence. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #62

Wrong. It was greed alone. kcr Dec 2017 #68

I'd take minimally invasive and successful 50% of the time Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #73

Shame on Aetna. For shame. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2017 #6

Insurance Company driven health care. jalan48 Dec 2017 #8

At least the government wasn't getting between her and her doctor! WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #10

But Aetna's CEO will walk away with $500 million in the CVS deal. Tanuki Dec 2017 #12

Obama's Death Panels hurple Dec 2017 #14

Sarcasm emoji will prevent alerts. irisblue Dec 2017 #36

Yesh, I learned that. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #39

I suppose GOP Congress Critters are toasting the decision with some Dom Perignon about now world wide wally Dec 2017 #16

We need to get rid of insurance companies. Poor girl. Maybe a GoFundMe account? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #17

I have an even blunter message for Aetna. 47of74 Dec 2017 #19

Boycott CVS bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #20

Aetna just bought out our insurance company benld74 Dec 2017 #21

that is the plan Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #65

That's a seriously stupid thing for an insurance company to do based solely on the dollars Vinca Dec 2017 #22

You didn't read the article. They did approve a more established and more expensive option grantcart Dec 2017 #45

One that is also more dangerous and outdated. They know patients won't chose it. kcr Dec 2017 #69

ah approving a more expensive option is being greedy grantcart Dec 2017 #74

They remove the top of the skull kcr Dec 2017 #75

Greedy is a pretty straight forward word, you should learn its meaning if you are going to use it. grantcart Dec 2017 #80

Single payer. Single payer. Single payer. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #23

Can't say it enough... Agreed Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #25

I'm a big supporter of single payer, but this is exactly the kind of decision marybourg Dec 2017 #31

Yeah, but as someone said above, insurance companies Alice11111 Dec 2017 #42

Yes, I said it myself, but it's also true that governments - when they are the single payer- marybourg Dec 2017 #59

Yeah Alice11111 Dec 2017 #63

How would single payer change her situation? ecstatic Dec 2017 #54

Single Payer systems dont pay for everything, all the time. Doesnt look like the UKs NHS... Marengo Dec 2017 #77

While Aetna may be short-sighted, the procedure they approved has better outcomes, costs more, etc. Hoyt Dec 2017 #24

I know another 16 year old girl who got the temporal lobectomy to stop her seizures. lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #27

I get it too. I also get Medtronic is behind much of the research and 70% Hoyt Dec 2017 #29

laser ablation does not preclude future surgeries. lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #33

There is a decision tree that is used Horse with no Name Dec 2017 #71

KnR Hekate Dec 2017 #28

This is why we need single payer! Luciferous Dec 2017 #30

Please see my response, # 31, above. nt marybourg Dec 2017 #32

Youd get the same issue over this very procedure with single payer. Hoyt Dec 2017 #34

UKs NHS doesnt appear to cover laser ablation either. Marengo Dec 2017 #78

If the doctor wants to do this procedure and the patient agrees...then Aetna STFU ! Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #37

You think healthcare is costly now, whether Medicare or not, let docs do whatever they want. Hoyt Dec 2017 #46

I will be done with Aetna on 1/1/2018 Soxderrube Dec 2017 #41

Unfortunately, you are going to run into the same thing with Medicare's drug plan. Hoyt Dec 2017 #48

And speaking of Aetna... MizzM Dec 2017 #43

Virtually all medical insurance will subrogate....... WillowTree Dec 2017 #79

I had breast cancer when I was 48 Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #47

My wife had it at 49. That was her first cancer DFW Dec 2017 #52

In Ontario, Canada... roamer65 Dec 2017 #49

A.E.T.N.A. DFW Dec 2017 #50

Corporations have only your best interests in mind Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #51

They approved a more costly surgery that has a higher success rate. tammywammy Dec 2017 #55

And a higher complication rate because Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #60

also more dangerous Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #64

**** AETNA WILL PAY FOR THE MORE EXPENSIVE HIGHER OUTCOME PROCEDURE *** (read the article) uponit7771 Dec 2017 #57

*****PEOPLE ARE READING THE ARTICLE. THE PROCEDURE IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS********** kcr Dec 2017 #76

In the CVS-Aetna merger Turbineguy Dec 2017 #58

Aetna made $2.3 billion in profits last year & paid CEO $17.3 million yurbud Dec 2017 #66

further proof that debate shouldn't be over single payer but whether insurance execs yurbud Dec 2017 #67

Laser Ablation is tricky to code Horse with no Name Dec 2017 #70

I hope they appeal tavalon Dec 2017 #72