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byronius

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115. OMG I'm so offended flame war flame war.

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 09:03 PM

Dec 2017

Which means, of course, chacertainly.

And more certainly, this has really, truly, made me realize that Dem leadership are just people. Scared, unstable, foolish humans like the rest of us. 'Cause this was not a smart move. Or brave.

I guess having to actually hang out with insane right-wingers all day rubs off, saps the intellience? I could see that.

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Here's what happened when I called Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's office re: Al Franken [View all] calimary Dec 2017 OP

I am impressed that the person who answered the phone gave you some stats on the phone calls. LisaM Dec 2017 #1

Maybe he was a thinking person or he had been persuaded Alice11111 Dec 2017 #4

"Members of #TheResistance, This is our Watershed Moment." Hortensis Dec 2017 #48

It's ironic: centrist Dems are a hell of a lot braver about targeting fellow Democrats yurbud Dec 2017 #71

These are NOT centrist Dems. Isn't the raging witch hunt Hortensis Dec 2017 #72

So you are saying....with a straight face.....that Gillibrand is the victim of a raging witch hunt? ollie10 Dec 2017 #160

Yes, and that Bernie Sanders conspicuously is not. Hortensis Dec 2017 #161

Due process is due process ollie10 Dec 2017 #164

Due process refers to LEGAL proceedings. But, RIP, Bernie. Hortensis Dec 2017 #165

Incorrect. due process is not limited to legal proceedings. bench scientist Dec 2017 #167

And the senate LEADERSHIP did, which means nothing apparently. Hortensis Dec 2017 #168

Bullshit ollie10 Dec 2017 #170

This isn't really a post-fact world, Ollie. Hortensis Dec 2017 #171

I don't agree with Bernie or anyone else 100% of the time yurbud Dec 2017 #176

yeah, I just say I've been a donor, which is true. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #38

Why shouldn't a nonconstituent be able to voice their opinion to any elected official? After Doitnow Dec 2017 #75

I agree with this Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #88

If I have donated or raised money. I do. Most email me Alice11111 Dec 2017 #103

Doitnow JimBeard Dec 2017 #124

I don't need to have my congressional representatives to be encouraged to do the right thing. I live Doitnow Dec 2017 #177

They should! LisaM Dec 2017 #149

Once they are in the Senate or House, for that matter tavalon Dec 2017 #130

She's not currently serving on any Committee but Nwgirl503 Dec 2017 #152

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #2

engaging in your rights as a citizen is a good thing...to most people nt msongs Dec 2017 #5

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #9

i've been on some of these juries barbtries Dec 2017 #17

Exactly the same for me. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #22

Same BadgerMom Dec 2017 #26

I've only alerted on a couple, both of which got taken down. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #42

Most, I just say they are within the rules...discussion, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #63

Strange. I was wondering why I hadn't gotten asked to serve lately spooky3 Dec 2017 #76

After reading what you said, I checked my profile, I have Alice11111 Dec 2017 #86

sorry to hear this. spooky3 Dec 2017 #96

Add a few names to your jury blacklist Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #101

Yep. That is where they got me. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #102

If it is not justified appeal. I always do...if I am guilty than so be it. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #37

Yes. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #77

I'm glad to see someone voicing my concerns about this site tavalon Dec 2017 #132

Thanks LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #150

How strange. I'm zentrum Dec 2017 #91

Lucky you.There are more who support Al here, thankfully. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #93

zentrum, it doesn't take very many to drag you up to a jury JimBeard Dec 2017 #125

Sorry to hear that. zentrum Dec 2017 #126

One lady just went down my posts dinging me. Then, she writes me implying I support rape & sex abuse Alice11111 Dec 2017 #138

Even though I disagree on the need for Franken to resign mythology Dec 2017 #15

Truly, whether you support Franken or Gillibrand, you are still Alice11111 Dec 2017 #31

Exactly. This is a major issue, both within the party and in general mythology Dec 2017 #64

That's already happening tavalon Dec 2017 #133

Just be a cheerleader Alice11111 Dec 2017 #136

This place didn't use to be like this tavalon Dec 2017 #137

I joined after the election, in my meltdown. A friend encouraged Alice11111 Dec 2017 #146

They've actually allowed this discussion to an extent tavalon Dec 2017 #147

Very strange, and not good for the Dem Party. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #151

Declaring over 2/3 of the Democratic caucus unworthy Hortensis Dec 2017 #166

Alerted on this? geez people. irisblue Dec 2017 #18

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #19

Communicating with our elected officials is important for democracy IronLionZion Dec 2017 #28

that is going around today. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #34

I applaud your civility, and TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #3

I don't know what's worse. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #35

Aw, now, y'see, you fell right into their trap. mac56 Dec 2017 #39

Breaking News: Gillibrand calls for Trump to resign. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #41

That is indeed good news. mac56 Dec 2017 #44

It's called "belated damage control" TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #45

Maybe that's what they were trying to do with Al. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #67

Yep. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #90

When was this? dhol82 Dec 2017 #54

Gillibrand will be replaced by another Dem TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #40

Yep Alice11111 Dec 2017 #92

The Line is Forming to the Left disndat Dec 2017 #97

Please just speak for yourself and not all New Yorkers. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #105

I don't live in New York Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #122

We need Justice Democrats tavalon Dec 2017 #135

So you're as sure now as most were that Hillary would defeat Trump. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #112

I don't want her gone...I just wouldn't vote for her in a presidential primary. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

Gillibrand's done some good stuff, though. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #51

Yes, it does hurt. Very unfair. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #94

good points n/t spooky3 Dec 2017 #100

She got 71% of the vote in 2012 in a deep blue state crazycatlady Dec 2017 #66

That's because she had no opponent disndat Dec 2017 #83

K&R BootinUp Dec 2017 #6

"We were ALL feeling various levels of upset and outrage Hortensis Dec 2017 #7

I'm calling Dems Heinreich and Udall who also joined the mob. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #14

Sen. Udall joins call for immigration enforcement investigation. Hortensis Dec 2017 #24

Sen Udall is very good!, but he blew it on the Franken Alice11111 Dec 2017 #29

Bernie Sanders called for Franken to resign. Outrage, any? Hortensis Dec 2017 #156

We were all very well-behaved. And the net neutrality issue did come up. calimary Dec 2017 #128

I called her and schumer suegeo Dec 2017 #8

"Senator Backs $1.5 Trillion Tax Cut, Then Says There's Hortensis Dec 2017 #10

There will be many. It is the Repub Plan of "Reform." Alice11111 Dec 2017 #33

You read this about Republican evil and look for a DEMOCRAT? Hortensis Dec 2017 #50

No, I didn't. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #65

Damn it Alice! Are you back to ignoring evil yet again? suegeo Dec 2017 #85

Wow, thank you! A bit too much perhaps, as I keep Alice11111 Dec 2017 #89

Were you trying to link to a news article? suegeo Dec 2017 #69

Follow up with an email janterry Dec 2017 #57

Still, it's important to let them know, they are not just Alice11111 Dec 2017 #70

It is good that her staff is being honest. delisen Dec 2017 #11

The ones I have called, seem like they aren't much listening. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #46

Why don't we focus on the people who are our real enemy, the people who want to take away Doodley Dec 2017 #12

You mean the ones taking away Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #20

That would have been a good question to ask Gillebrand & her fellow senators! Demit Dec 2017 #25

I know..... like there's not enough real enemies to go after in the world! Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #106

calimary marieo1 Dec 2017 #13

Welcome to DU, marieo1! calimary Dec 2017 #131

Kick dalton99a Dec 2017 #16

Thank you for doing that PatSeg Dec 2017 #21

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #23

Still waiting. NellieStarbuck Dec 2017 #27

She's doing the too little too late denuciation of Trump flamingdem Dec 2017 #61

welcome to DU gopiscrap Dec 2017 #139

Welcome to DU, NellieStarbuck! calimary Dec 2017 #144

Same here (nt) LoveMyCali Dec 2017 #154

Calimary, you are awesome!! Duppers Dec 2017 #30

Well points to them for being open and civil, let's hope the 70 plus calls makes them rethink flamingdem Dec 2017 #32

Dont pretend to be a constituent if you arent. Agschmid Dec 2017 #36

Sorry, I Can't Agree ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #43

Yes.. She made it a national interest... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #53

Her Ambition Then Was Her Motivation? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #55

Don't pin me to one motivation, these actions are complex... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #59

Good For You ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #108

Thats all fine and dandy but the OP suggests they were ready to lie about it. Agschmid Dec 2017 #56

So? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #58

Not kidding. Sorry not down with lying, didnt know so many were. Agschmid Dec 2017 #60

OK , Don ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #109

When Senators start realizing they represent the whole of the country and impact the whole tavalon Dec 2017 #143

i remember getting "local" zip codes orleans Dec 2017 #62

Yup, clearly your strategy worked really well. Agschmid Dec 2017 #78

yeah. what was *your* strategy orleans Dec 2017 #148

Walked miles around NH, knocked on doors, made calls, spoke to voters. Agschmid Dec 2017 #157

This ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #110

Ironically, those Dem senators didn't exactly tell the truth as to why they OnDoutside Dec 2017 #79

You know why I do that? calimary Dec 2017 #123

Couple things... Agschmid Dec 2017 #134

Yeah, this state constituents only thing tavalon Dec 2017 #140

I am sure she bdamomma Dec 2017 #49

I emailed both Kamala and Dianne Feinstein this morning. byronius Dec 2017 #68

Thanks, I need to remember to write my CA reps more often flamingdem Dec 2017 #73

She doesn't seem like the brightest bulb on the tree suegeo Dec 2017 #98

Sorry I meant to reply to post 29 suegeo Dec 2017 #99

OMG I'm so offended flame war flame war. byronius Dec 2017 #115

Thank you for doing this; thank you for being kind and civil to the innocent party who answered the spooky3 Dec 2017 #74

I'm trying to understand the "due process" complaint ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #80

Due process in this case is short hand for the Ethics Committee flamingdem Dec 2017 #82

Got it, thanks ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #84

Right on, sista! Great job. I'll call, too. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #81

All I get is busy. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #87

Gillibrand must be some leader, Progressive dog Dec 2017 #95

Schumer is New Yorks' senior senator suegeo Dec 2017 #104

So Franken resigned because he has street smarts Progressive dog Dec 2017 #114

That's almost correct, imho. suegeo Dec 2017 #120

Franken had street smarts, that's why Progressive dog Dec 2017 #121

Actually, he resigned because with thirty three Senators sticking him with a shiv, tavalon Dec 2017 #141

No one was "Sticking him with a shiv" Progressive dog Dec 2017 #173

He asked for an investigation right away. LisaL Dec 2017 #158

And then he changed his mind Progressive dog Dec 2017 #174

Actually they were all texting and talking about and said if one more allegation comes out we will Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #107

not silly so much as stupid stupid stupid suegeo Dec 2017 #118

Well said tavalon Dec 2017 #142

Character means ALWAYS asking, Is this the RIGHT thing to do? lostnfound Dec 2017 #111

Touching is a joke? DownriverDem Dec 2017 #162

Stupid false equivalence, Im feeding it. Nt lostnfound Dec 2017 #175

This. populistdriven Dec 2017 #113

Good for you MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #116

KnRnThanks Hekate Dec 2017 #117

Check out her FB page and Twitter feed - 1000 to 1 really really pissed at her NYgal Dec 2017 #119

Welcome to DU, NYgal! calimary Dec 2017 #145

I was on her mailing list and unsubscribed. erinlough Dec 2017 #127

She's forfeited any support for a 2020 presidential nomination. nt oasis Dec 2017 #129

Does that go for the other 31, including Bernie Sanders? Hortensis Dec 2017 #163

Bernie won't be remembered for leading the ill fated charge oasis Dec 2017 #169

You're embarrasing yourself and us DeltaLitProf Dec 2017 #153

Please speak for yourself LoveMyCali Dec 2017 #155

Thank you.. I've called every Senator twice mountain grammy Dec 2017 #159

+1000 flamingdem Dec 2017 #172